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Does this not depend if he can get himself out of that 5 year contract with Mclaren?
Surely if he's tied down to these incompetent 'tards for 5 years then your comment doesnt stand true
Bahrain GP 2009 - Race 4/17
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Does this not depend if he can get himself out of that 5 year contract with Mclaren?
Surely if he's tied down to these incompetent 'tards for 5 years then your comment doesnt stand true
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Wasn't everyone saying that to leave McLaren he had to leave them immediately after the lying scandal? In order to claim breach of contract that is. Course if he did that then, which team would have taken him on?
He hasn't left McLaren so knowing them and how tight their driver contracts are he'll find it hard to leave early. He'll need to pay them a lot of money to leave. And really, apart from McLaren, who else will really build a team around him? Yes Ferrari would concentrate on him but he's been at McLaren so long the whole team is practically supportive of him. To another team he'd just be a driver they'd signed and their number one.
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Dad reckons that Button burn't his bum whilst driving the car at Bahrain.. as it got that hot, I've not heard or read this anywhere else.. anyone care to clarify? Thanks.
same can be said for most formula one drivers.
every f1 driver who is any good has stupidly fast reactions much faster than the average person and i wouldnt say playing computer games makes you better at pressing buttons but a lot of f1 drivers were known to play the f1 playstation games long before hamilton was in f1
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Sounds like a bit of PR nonsense from a right breast to be honest - Mansell did it so much better in the 1980 Austrian GP
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Cant remember where i read it but i read Barrichello burned the right side of his waist aswell, seems those Brawn cars really were cooking.Sounds like a bit of PR nonsense from a right breast to be honest - Mansell did it so much better in the 1980 Austrian GP
EDIT: here we go
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=45720
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watched this last night but missed about 20 (42-22) laps from falling asleep from being nackered
other then that it was a good race, was hoping SV won though, it certainly wont be long till he is a champion.....other then that im happy lewis is on his way back and proving he is a true champion! no1 can take that away from him!
anyway random question time, if schumacher was to get back on the race track do you think he would still be on top? i never got to really see schumacher racing as i didn't ever bother to think and try watch a F1 back then
other then that it was a good race, was hoping SV won though, it certainly wont be long till he is a champion.....other then that im happy lewis is on his way back and proving he is a true champion! no1 can take that away from him!
anyway random question time, if schumacher was to get back on the race track do you think he would still be on top? i never got to really see schumacher racing as i didn't ever bother to think and try watch a F1 back then
anyway random question time, if schumacher was to get back on the race track do you think he would still be on top? i never got to really see schumacher racing as i didn't ever bother to think and try watch a F1 back then
not in the current Ferrari
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same here. i find catching people in karting extremely easy. Once im past them its as if ive hit a brick wall and cant escape.
best example was a FiestaSTOC karting meet last month. I got spun out while in 3rd, and dropped to 6th. within 6x 35second laps i was right upto the guy that punted me off. Overtook, jumped into 2nd pulled away maybe 5seconds but then my lapchart shows a stedy fall off in times, and i got mugged with 2laps to go and dropped to 5th again.
... The guy in 1st had spent the whole race doing stedy 36second laps with 1x 35sec lap. 25 out of my 30 laps where 35second laps.... 
my 2nd problem is i rarely go defensive, im always using the fastest laptime line, which often means people just fly up the inside of me and push me out. The oposite can be said of many people who go defensive waaaaaay too early and end up slowing everyone up.
But then becoming a better driver will mean you need to learn when to go defensive and when to put the hammer down.
For example, when entering hairpins, or very slow corners where somebody behind could outbrake you, its best to turn in early to prevent the driver behind from shoving his car into the corner. Once you are into a slow corner or hairpin, you can almost go as slow as you want - the driver behind has almost no choice but to follow your slow speed.
Dont forget though, if you are involved in a long battle (of many laps), bumper to bumper, you may want to brake-test the guy behind. I know its not totally above board, but its a technique that all top racers should know about. Most famously, Senna did this at Monaco 1992, against Mansell, who was in a car about 3s/lap faster than Senna who was inches ahead of him.
Its best to practise these things on the computer first and then go and try them out on a real track.
So Hamilton wins a title in the best car on the grid and he is something special, but if Button does the same thing he isn't
I would argue that Hamilton didnt have the best car in 2008. In fact for many races, I remember Ferrari being able to run away with it. You also saw how Hamilton comprehensively outperformed his team-mate.
Compare this to say Ferrari, who include a very fast dry weather driver (Massa) and the then, World Champion (Kimi) - Hamilton dealt with the situations in 2008 pretty damn well, for his 2nd season in F1.
If you go back to 2007, you will see that he managed to handle the then World Champion (Alonso) and matched him on points. In some races, he even showed he was faster than Alonso. And all this in his first season in F1.
In 2009, Hamilton continues to show that he is special in that he is finishing races in positions that his car, by right, shouldnt be finishing in. Compare Hamilton with his team-mate and you get a good idea of the true performance level of that car.
Button is a good solid driver, in the same way that Kimi was in 2007 and D.Hill was. These drivers tend to become forgotten, soon after they leave F1.
You cannot mention Button in the same breath as Hamilton.
I would say it does. Console and computer games are all about hand eye co-ordination and in your free time, if you are training your hand-eye co-ordination, it would make sense that you will improve in that area. This is why seasoned gamers tend to be able to pick up a new game and be better at it than someone who is totally new to gaming. Their hand-eye co-ordination is better.
Can you give me some names? I don't recall ever hearing Damon Hill or Nigel Mansell playing computer/console games, regularly.
Villeneuve learnt spa in 96 through first playing it on the PC. There are pictures of him playing it in the book 'my first season in f1'. He says he also studied flying laps of sennas and that his best lap time on the pc was good enough for 18th.
He stuck the williams on pole on his first ever trip round the circuit.
That would infer that JV did that, specifically for his job.
Hamilton on the other hand plays console games, for the sheer pleasure of it. If he weren't a F1 driver, he would probably continue to play console games.
Thats the dfiference.
Hamilton on the other hand plays console games, for the sheer pleasure of it. If he weren't a F1 driver, he would probably continue to play console games.
Thats the dfiference.
So Hamilton wins a title in the best car on the grid and he is something special, but if Button does the same thing he isn't
the ferrari was easily the fastest car last year.
anyway random question time, if schumacher was to get back on the race track do you think he would still be on top? i never got to really see schumacher racing as i didn't ever bother to think and try watch a F1 back then
MS was very good. There were faster, more exciting drivers than him, but he certainly was the most complete driver in F1, ever. He was a model professional who didnt leave any stone unturned in trying to win (even if it meant cheating).
How would he fair in 2009? Well, Alonso beat him in 2005 and 2006. At this point MS felt that he needed to retire. If he had continued he may have become World Champion again, but I felt that he was past his best, though even at that level, he was probably still better than most.
If he came back now, he might actually be revitalised and perform superbly as a result. Personally though, I dont think he would be as good now as he once was.
No they don't, this was proved in the full version of that video you posted earlier on schumacher. They tested his reactions in that film, F1 racing even did an article on it years back. His reactions were no faster than an average man. It was his feel for what was happening and responding to it that gives them the edge.
Hamilton had the best car in 08 he just made a bit hard for himself, otherwise he would have wrapped it up early. Even in the end it came to a lot of luck and there was much argument on here as to who actually deserved the title more.
Button is also totally outperforming his team mate. In much the same was as schumacher outperformed Rubens. As I told you when you were slagging him off last year as being finished, as soon as the car was good enough to challenege he would step up and finish off rubens just the same as when the honda was last half decent.
Don't worry if Button does get a title I will dig out all your best quotes
Hamilton I'm sure will go on to win more titles than Button purely because of his age and the team he's sat in. Yet I'd still rate winning a title in a Brawn far higher than in a ferrari or mclaren.
Not even schumacher was at a team in such a lowly position as the honda/brawn and won a title.
It will be the greatest achievement I've seen for a team/driver in 30 years. I can honestly say I'd rather win one like that than 5 with a top team.
That achievement if it happens will never be forgotten.
depends on what
it depends how simple the tests are imo
a simple colour changes hit a button as fast as you can then the results would be fairly similar across a wide spread of people
if it was more advanced and you had to process some information and then react quickly with the right decision i expect you would find results vary a lot depending on the person tested.
maybe thats why some drivers seem to have a better "feel for the car" than others do.
i bet most people wouldnt be able to react quick enough for the micro slides in corners like schumacher in that video
Its not his reactions to it happening, it's his feel that it's happening in the first place that saves him.
As I said they fully tested his reactions and there was nothing out of the ordinary.
They set the car up like that because that's how it likes it. Its why people never seem to like driving one of his cars. Ferrari have obviously got used to building cars like that which is why they should lob alonso in it asap.
As I said they fully tested his reactions and there was nothing out of the ordinary.
They set the car up like that because that's how it likes it. Its why people never seem to like driving one of his cars. Ferrari have obviously got used to building cars like that which is why they should lob alonso in it asap.