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Borrish even though its a fun race mate protest it. We dont need idiots like that.

It's tempting but I'm not sure it would achieve anything. It doesn't seem intentional but he just can't hold a line. It doesn't help that there's no feedback from the protest system except "It's been resolved" so you have no idea if they actually got punished.
 
Does anyone know if the crappy MS 360 wheel will work on pc with games like Dirt3 and F1? I've every intention of buying a G27 later in the year but money is a tad tight right now so want to make do with what I have if possible.
 
Qualifying helped a lot at Texas with the NTM, I 'only' set a 30.211 for qualifying but that puts me in the top 10-15 even in the top splits due to the high number of people that don't qualify, after I did that it was generally the case that the wrecks happened somewhere behind me.

But with the ovals you'll always end up with a bad race, looking at the stats I did 12 starts and only 965 laps, so I lost 235 laps somewhere along the way, now I can remember disconnected around lap 60 in one race, and at one point I just got fed up after being taken out in the first lap that I rage-quit so that's 99 laps done, but the other 100 or so were just from either crashes taking me out completely or the laps lost (mostly crash based, 2 races where I was legitimately 1 lap down due to boneheaded strategy decisions :p)

Overall though my SR is massively up (~2.3x B Class to 3.70 A Class \o/)

But yeah, 'seeing' the wrecks happen, or even about to happen ahead is something you kinda learn over time, I'm still learning but definitely better than I was. And of course not even trying in the first 50-70 laps or so, eg finding a group you can run with and just hanging back 0.4s or so which is easily in the draft when you want to catch up but enough to give that extra breathing room...

But yes, the NTM is fantastic at ovals at least, some flaws with it apparantly but overall it's a massive step in the right direction comparing it to the old version, can't wait till the end of the month to see it on the road cars, just hoping they put it on the Skippy, and that it still remains my favorite car...
 
It's tempting but I'm not sure it would achieve anything. It doesn't seem intentional but he just can't hold a line. It doesn't help that there's no feedback from the protest system except "It's been resolved" so you have no idea if they actually got punished.

If 'It's been resolved' then I believe that means they agree with the protest, and they've at least given the other guy a slap on the wrists so hopefully he'll improve, not saying it's perfect it's better than nothing,

But then there was a protest earlier in this thread that was fairly obvious but yet didn't 'succeed' for some unknown reason :(

Does anyone know if the crappy MS 360 wheel will work on pc with games like Dirt3 and F1? I've every intention of buying a G27 later in the year but money is a tad tight right now so want to make do with what I have if possible.

I believe you can get it to work, however there's no FFB, and it's horrid, I'd rather gouge my eyes out with a wooden spoon. :p
 
If 'It's been resolved' then I believe that means they agree with the protest, and they've at least given the other guy a slap on the wrists so hopefully he'll improve, not saying it's perfect it's better than nothing,

But then there was a protest earlier in this thread that was fairly obvious but yet didn't 'succeed' for some unknown reason :(
I seriously hope they did bearing in mind he drove into me at full speed when the race was over and he made a clear effort to steer into me!

Well I've only finished 1 Texas race this week. One of the wrecks was me messing up while trying to avoid a slow car but all the others are me getting caught up in someone's mess. I've been T-boned by spinning cars twice. Once because I was busy trying to avoid the car in front of me that had spun and didn't realise someone else had spun further up the field, and another time because I thought I could make it past the crash and thus avoid having to slow down and be rear ended. Last nights one was probably most annoying because the field had at least 15 seconds to slow down to avoid the wreck but they still came around the corner at full speed and obliterated me. That was also because someone spun in front of me.

I don't really get it. It's not THAT hard to run Texas without spinning!
 
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I seriously hope they did bearing in mind he drove into me at full speed when the race was over and he made a clear effort to steer into me!

Well I've only finished 1 Texas race this week. One of the wrecks was me messing up while trying to avoid a slow car but all the others are me getting caught up in someone's mess. I've been T-boned by spinning cars twice. Once because I was busy trying to avoid the car in front of me that had spun and didn't realise someone else had spun further up the field, and another time because I thought I could make it past the crash and thus avoid having to slow down and be rear ended. Last nights one was probably most annoying because the field had at least 15 seconds to slow down to avoid the wreck but they still came around the corner at full speed and obliterated me. That was also because someone spun in front of me.

I don't really get it. It's not THAT hard to run Texas without spinning!

I think the problem with people spinning is them attempting to drive the 'quick' setups that are posted on the forums, my setup is quite easy to drive but if you push the tyres for a few laps you'll overheat the RR and it gets loose, I have a small amount of skill so I find this both amusing (some beautiful drifts coming up out of T4 this week :p) and a definite sign to back right off for a bit before speeding up to a more sensible level, however to others you can see them getting loose, and looser, and looser, and then around they go. It's essentially ignoring what the tyres are like and continuing to push them.

As for the avoidance, it's very easy to pick the wrong 'side' to go down when the car is spinning, had that happen once this week where I thought he'd stay low long enough but it wasn't to be, and yes there's always the stupid people who just fly on through and take themselves out along with some cautious people.

I can't recommend qualifying enough though, and/or starting from the pits and just hanging back, it seems almost every race that after the first 5-6 cautions you get a long green run as the idiots finally take themselves out, and it's then that you can start racing properly :p

Of course it can be completely different and I did one ridiculously high strength-of-field race where there was only 1 caution the entire race, and that after 65 laps or so of green flag racing, first time I had to do a 'proper' green flag pitstop (eg pushing it on the pit entry/exit so as not to lose out too much time), of course I still managed to screw up on that one caution and end up a lap down, but that's just another of my few talents :p
 
I really need to learn to do my own set-ups. I imagine it's a big help being able to set the car up for your own driving style rather than having to learn to drive someone's car. I'm using downloaded set-ups at the moment but these can be of variable quality. I get what you're saying about the set-up getting loser over time but some people are managing to spin it on lap 2 which leads me to believe they didn't practice at all and jumped straight into a race.

I do need to put more emphasis on qualifying. The race I did finish was mainly because I was in front of all the carnage as I was running in the top 6 for most of the race (until I wrecked my tyres!).

I've only had a single green flag pit-stop so far and that was at Daytona. I almost had two but despite me giving an entire lap warning someone ran into the back of the guy following me into the pits and put me into a wall :rolleyes:
 
There will be a hosted practice session for Road Alanta Full Course in the Skip Barber tonight.

Details are;

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I generally just tweak, I can do something from 'scratch' (iRacing defaults at least) for the Late Model although it takes me several hours but not for the higher class cars, I just know a few settings that can be tweaked just to alter the balance. Bit misleading saying 'my setup' really, At least when I save them I include the initials of original author first :p

Yeah, lap 2 nonsense is just silly, even pushing for a non-drafted 30.1 on the first lap I don't notice that much difference (other than speed) on the second, it takes several laps before it gets ridiculous, as you say they clearly haven't practiced. Another bit, that practice would fix, is no being able to hold the car on the higher line (which is kinda bad at Texas, particularly T1)

It was my first one but luckily I had ~3s back to the guy behind, nice and safe, although almost lost it under braking into the pits, running 55% brake bias can be awkward at times :p
 
Took your advise Skill and qualified for Texas. I didn't do brilliantly (mostly because I somehow manage to load the wrong set-up!) but It did seem to help avoid some of the carnage. I still ended up with someone spinning right into my path but I manage to avoid wrecking my car at least. Once again I was amazed at the fact the rear end of the field didn't slow down for the caution at all despite the fact there must have been a ton of tyre smoke since two of us were sideways. Personally I blame Days of Thunder :p Having issues with tyre wear though. By the end of the race my tyres were completely gone having only run about 30 laps I think. The leaders seem to be able to run longer and faster somehow.
 
Took your advise Skill and qualified for Texas. I didn't do brilliantly (mostly because I somehow manage to load the wrong set-up!) but It did seem to help avoid some of the carnage. I still ended up with someone spinning right into my path but I manage to avoid wrecking my car at least. Once again I was amazed at the fact the rear end of the field didn't slow down for the caution at all despite the fact there must have been a ton of tyre smoke since two of us were sideways. Personally I blame Days of Thunder :p Having issues with tyre wear though. By the end of the race my tyres were completely gone having only run about 30 laps I think. The leaders seem to be able to run longer and faster somehow.

I ended up doing 2 races on a setup that was excellent around Michigan, bit loose around Texas though, only realised (thought I was driving oddly to make it looser) when I went into practice just before qualifying, then felt silly :p

Cole Trickle is my idol, if I see a wreck I simply close my eyes and keep it flat, what could possible go wrong...

With the tyre wear it's either setup or your pushing too hard, as an example of pushing too hard I can do a 30.155 in practice on the first lap of my setup, a 30.3 is doable on the second lap, and then if I push really hard I can do a couple of 30.6/7's but then I need to drop into the 9's for a bit to cool the RR, before settling down to consistent low 9's/high 8's. But if I start the run like that it won't be too long before I'm struggling and getting 31.2/3's if not slower.

The punishment given to the RF when really pushing doesn't seem to affect you for a good while, yet it will come to bite you.

In a race situation (eg I've got a draft) if I'm being sensible and attempting to keep my tyres alive I will be doing 30.3's for a lap or two before fairly rapidly dropping to the 30.8/30.9's, all with draft so no need to push all that hard in the corners, doing this I can do >50 lap runs before it starts dropping into the 31's on a regular basis (my consistency, or lack of, means I hit some 31's at various points beforehand). There's a big difference between those lap times and the ultimate pace I can do in practice with no draft, and the length of the consistent bit in the middle of the tyre life represents that.

Obviously the other argument is setup, if you've got a 'tight' setup then it's invariably going to wear out the RF more which means it just keeps getting tighter, which wears the tyre more etc etc etc, an ideal setup is one that you can drive in a manner that suits your preference of loose/tight but the only important bit is that the tyre wear is roughly equal, I think at one point I checked and I had 50% on the RF and 53% on the RR in the centre of the tyre, and with that the balance was good enough to just keep lapping quickly and not damage the tyres so much.

And now we're onto New Hampshire, which is evil, and hard, done a bit of practice and set a 30.4 but nowhere near able to race yet, either gonna sit this one out or gonna take a while of practicing till I'm ready...
 
I must have been having a seriously bad day because I somehow manage to load a Daytona set which is so loose on Texas that it did a 180 the second I went anywhere near the turn.

If I loosened the set-up a bit I think it'd help. I'll have to learn how to tweak set-ups so I can at least adjust them. I think I was doing alright with my tyres but then I got a bit carried away and that wrecked them.

I tried a few laps on New Hampshire but the advanced set-up just doesn't seem to want to turn at all. When I finally did manage to get it to turn I span on the exit and hit the pit wall. Good start eh!
 
lol, bit of a difference between Daytona and Texas :p

I don't really know much, my main tactics so far are to alter the brake bias (I like 55% at Texas as it allows me to trail it slightly once the RF gets a bit worn/if I go in too hot) and the RR trackbar height (iirc higher = looser)

Saying that I can't use 55% at NHMS as it just loops around going into the corner, 58-60% seems to be the sweet spot where you can drive it in on the brakes and still get it turning, still need to work a lot on the setup. I found with the mid-corner/exit looseness that reducing the front ballast/moving it backwards took that away reasonably well (think I moved it ~2"s but could be mistaken).

I think with NHMS if I race I'm going to have to actually sit down and spend a good chunk of time learning what more of the settings do so I can get it working nicely for me, it seems more like a short track than places like Texas/Michigan/Charlotte which is all I've done with the NTM so far and I know my driving style around short tracks never really matched with anyone elses setups :p
 
I'm completely hopeless at short tracks. I might practice the late model a bit to improve on them. If I drive smooth then it seems very, very slow (and the lap times sure are!) but If i drive aggressively it's like I'm drifting the entire time and I usually end up spinning eventually. Might have to watch a few reference laps actually.
 
Not really sure why but I always feel that short tracks are much more like road courses in how you setup the car/drive the car, possibly because you actually have to brake heavily and deep into the corner rather than the larger ovals that are either just lifting or very light braking...

I do/did enjoy the Late Model, races are if anything more intense than the higher level ovals due to lack of cautions and also being much shorter, but the handling of the car at the half-mile ovals is great fun :)
 
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Suzuka Circuit is looking very nice, don't think I will be buying the new cars as I want to try & do a full skippy Season.
New tire model is out at Thursday for the cars below.

Impala A
Impala B
Silverado
Ford GT
HPD ARX-01C
Skip Barber Formula 2000

 
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