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10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..
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If you need a card, just pre-order, this will be an excellent card. A lot of people with 9 and 10 series passed on Turing, and are eagar to upgrade to the 30 series. We also have a global pandemic, and Samsung's usually poorer wafer yields (vs TSMC) which will take time to mature. So possible high demand, shortage of cards, may leave you waiting a while after reviews.
If you don't need a card, and can get by for awhile i.e you didn't sell your 1080 Ti/2080 Ti, or have a lower end spare card, then it's absolutely worth waiting to see what Big Navi brings on it's superior node to Samsung 8nm. If it's competative we'll almost certainly get a 3090 with say 12GB of VRAM, or a 3080 with 16GB-20GB given that price gap between the 3080 and 3090, but who knows when. 1080 Ti dropped in the following year, like many of its predecessors. 2080 Ti though, arrived at launch. So timing is anyone's guess.
Define "need"
I am still leaning towards pre-ordering and giving the 1080ti to the missus, will be a nice upgrade for her from a 1060. I was lining up a move to Zen 3 when it becomes available from my 7700K anyway, so the 3090 price point is out of the question.
Somewhere, in an alternate version of reality, the Internet is outraged as the 3000-series cards launched at the same high price points as the 2000-series, while packing "unnecessary" amounts of VRAM
That reality is just a month or two away, lol!
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I sold my 1080 Ti before launch, I don't own a spare, so only have a low powered chromebook, and my phone. So I "need" a card to use my PC.Define "need"
I am still leaning towards pre-ordering and giving the 1080ti to the missus, will be a nice upgrade for her from a 1060. I was lining up a move to Zen 3 when it becomes available from my 7700K anyway, so the 3090 price point is out of the question.
2080 Ti and 1080 Ti prices are right now in free fall, so it makes sense for you to recycle them.
The 3090 is a cross between the Ti GPU with Titan level RAM, relabeled 3090. It's a beast, if you have a 4K, high refresh monitor, and use use Blender, Maya, etc it's perfect. For everyone else, I'd say go with the 3080 for 4K or 3070 for 1440p, yes, you may have to turn down Ultra to high in time, but I'd be surprised if most folks would notice.
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Over a 10 year period you are better of getting a 3070 16gb, then a 4070, then a 5070, then a 6070, then a 7070 with the same money instead of buying a 3090 now. Obviously the above includes you selling the card before and adding £200 or whatever it is to upgrade each time. This method means you will always be included in the new shiny fun and will have a card no less than treble the performance of your 3090 by the time the 10 years is up.
The first Titan was out only 7 years ago and just look how **** that is now. Been **** for like 4-5 years too. Lol
Oops, seems I missed the half when reading, I read it as a decade. Lol. I only catches it after reading the post again after posting myself, was thinking wtf, a decade? Lol.
LolSomewhere, in an alternate version of reality, the Internet is outraged as the 3000-series cards launched at the same high price points as the 2000-series, while packing "unnecessary" amounts of VRAM
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A 3070 or 3080 will both be fine for some time. If the 3090 was £1000, it would be a practical waste, as you'd be leaving performance on the table, and paying more, but you'd have bragging rights I suppose. I'd practice your pressing F5 skills and preorder from someone who has good returns policy. If reviews aren't solid you can return it.
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Ah, I thought it was all on the 17th. That's fantastic news, especially as I rather like the Founders. Thanks.
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I also think 10GB will be enough. Its like "PS5" put so much time and money into this SSD drive they have going on getting the most out of it on how games utilize it
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I suspect too much is being made of Doom Eternal at nightmare quality. I've been looking at screenshots comparing nightmare to ultra and there are differences however it's not massive and primarily it seems to be that nightmare is a bit sharper and the shadows are a bit..darker. I would love to see native 4k screenshots of nightmare vs ultra with some sharpening applied, maybe even...gasp...DLSS. I really get the feeling this is one of those fringe situations that don't really represent the current state of gaming or anything in the near future. In otherwords, is D:E's nightmare preset just using VRAM for the sake of it? Is this similar to a situation we've seen before such as running uncompressed textures when it's almost completely pointless and consumers are latching on to this a little too much?
I like the founders too, although the design doesn't particularly lend itself to vertical mounting. Eyeing the Zotac but not confident my f5 skills will land me one.
That is my thoughts exactly. If in the future I have to go from nightmare to one setting lower, that is not a problem at all for me. Better than paying £100 or more for extra ram for a card I will replace next gen anyways. Will be interesting to see how it goes.
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Q. Is 10Gb of VRAM enough?
A. Yes *(but) - At the moment 10Gb is perfectly fine for 1080p and 1440p, and 'just' about passable for 2k UW and 4k.
But in a year or two from now when you are eyeing up that new 4k or 5k UW monitor upgrade you may wish you had more.
And that is the whole point really' future proofing, making the best upgrade you possibly can here and now at a reasonable price point.
Just look at how long some of us chaps have held on to our 1080ti's... that is a ownership experience we would all ultimately like to repeat.
And the truth is 16Gb or 20Gb is a better capacity than 8Gb and 10Gb going forward.
Anyway that's my 2 cents on the subject.
A. Yes *(but) - At the moment 10Gb is perfectly fine for 1080p and 1440p, and 'just' about passable for 2k UW and 4k.
But in a year or two from now when you are eyeing up that new 4k or 5k UW monitor upgrade you may wish you had more.
And that is the whole point really' future proofing, making the best upgrade you possibly can here and now at a reasonable price point.
Just look at how long some of us chaps have held on to our 1080ti's... that is a ownership experience we would all ultimately like to repeat.
And the truth is 16Gb or 20Gb is a better capacity than 8Gb and 10Gb going forward.
Anyway that's my 2 cents on the subject.
If you don't plan on upgrading again for hopper then yes defo get minimum 16gb to future proof. If you do, I can't see it being a huge issue. People make it sound like nightmare setting for textures is the only option. There are many others and there is not a night and day difference between the one lower. Most people need to take a screen shot to point the difference.Q. Is 10Gb of VRAM enough?
A. Yes *(but) - At the moment 10Gb is perfectly fine for 1080p and 1440p, and 'just' about passable for 2k UW and 4k.
But in a year or two from now when you are eyeing up that new 4k or 5k UW monitor upgrade you may wish you had more.
And that is the whole point really' future proofing, making the best upgrade you possibly can here and now at a reasonable price point.
Just look at how long some of us chaps have held on to our 1080ti's... that is a ownership experience we would all ultimately like to repeat.
And the truth is 16Gb or 20Gb is a better capacity than 8Gb and 10Gb going forward.
Anyway that's my 2 cents on the subject.
Hopefully it's OK to share this. I'd be interested in whether anyone on here can support or rebut it:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/vram-in-2020-2024-why-10gb-is-enough.280976/
I'm interested in the 3080 to play at 4K, but would like to be able to keep it for at least 3-4 years without having to turn settings down too much.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/vram-in-2020-2024-why-10gb-is-enough.280976/
I'm interested in the 3080 to play at 4K, but would like to be able to keep it for at least 3-4 years without having to turn settings down too much.
As long as you are happy to drop texture setting down one maybe 2 settings for the most demanding games, then you will be fine. Also there is DLSS where you can run at 1440p or lower if needed. That said at 3-4 years I would be looking at 16gb if you do not like the idea of lowering textures, I would not be as comfortable as I am now if I knew I would be keeping it much more than 2 years for example. Bu teach to their own.
They are saying what other people in this thread have been saying and my response was as follows
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If we were talking about the 3060 or maybe even the 3070 with 10GB of VRAM. I would agree that it is enough (for now). But we are talking about the flagship card for PC gaming (assuming AMD drops the ball).
You're paying a premium so that you can have the same graphical fidelity as a console, admittedly with higher frame rates. (I think we all agree that an increase graphical fidelity, compared to the console, will require more VRAM right? Does anyone disagree?). Like i said on the first page for those that buy a new graphics card every generation this isn't going to be a problem. For anyone planning on skipping a generation, good luck with that.
To those who are saying that 10GB is enough, and RTX IO will make up the difference, etc...
You will all be singing a different tune when Nvidia launches their next generation of cards with ~16GB VRAM on the top end
And none of you will be complaining about having to pay more for an extra 6GB of VRAM you "don't" need.
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It will be an issue once Nvidia refreshes the line-up with more VRAM when GDDR6X prices drop!!
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