10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

Poneros · 27 Oct 2020 at 13:15

imginy said:
Lol, I know I proper failed at testing them games.

I will play it today for ya, I wanna give the game a go anyway and haven't been back to it.

So 4k, ultra vsync off yeah. Any particular AA you want on or any game breaking settings you want off?

Cheers mate! I would say keep vsync off and try 5K through DSR but 4K is fine too. I would also drop volumetrics to medium. AA it's all the same performance wise.

If you have stutter then supposedly a driver update messed it up, from steam forums:

I've had the same issue (1070ti as well), lots of stuttering. I found the fix on another post via google. Basically in task manager i set the surge2 exe priority to high and disabled core 0. Works great now.

SeeNoWeevil · 27 Oct 2020 at 13:36

Hickaru said:
So you don't see a 3080ti being priced at something like $799?

Maybe nvidia will do something of that sorts if 6800xt beats the 3080 and is priced low.

The 3090 is already the 3080Ti. I think people are just talking up these mythical 3080 variants because they didn't get in early enough on the 3080 and it justifies the 'waiting'. If the perf gap between the 3080 and the 3090 is small and the price gap is large, the chance of Nvidia squeezing something good value in there is approaching nil imo.

SeeNoWeevil · 27 Oct 2020 at 13:47

Looking forward to the 2080ti destroying the 3070 in benchmarks with its superior VRAM allocation. Right guys?

Twinz · 27 Oct 2020 at 13:50

SeeNoWeevil said:
The 3090 is already the 3080Ti.

Nvidia can't ignore AMD this time. If the stack they have doesn't cut it, they will have no choice but to make changes.

If it takes a 3090 with less vram, that's what will happen. And the price point will be dictated by whatever competition AMD brings.

This reminds me of the price/performance predictions before the 3080 launched. It's like some people think Nvida is the all-powerful Wizard of Oz, and we are totally at their mercy.

"3090 performance is $1400! The Wizard of Oz has spoken."

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Twinz · 27 Oct 2020 at 13:51

SeeNoWeevil said:
Looking forward to the 2080ti destroying the 3070 in benchmarks with its superior VRAM allocation. Right guys?

Haha.

Hickaru · 27 Oct 2020 at 13:56

SeeNoWeevil said:
The 3090 is already the 3080Ti. I think people are just talking up these mythical 3080 variants because they didn't get in early enough on the 3080 and it justifies the 'waiting'. If the perf gap between the 3080 and the 3090 is small and the price gap is large, the chance of Nvidia squeezing something good value in there is approaching nil imo.

oh

PrincessFrosty · 27 Oct 2020 at 13:57

SeeNoWeevil said:
Looking forward to the 2080ti destroying the 3070 in benchmarks with its superior VRAM allocation. Right guys?

vRAM is like go faster stripes, the more you have the faster it goes.

Vrooooooooom

GloriousMess · 27 Oct 2020 at 14:01

Silent_Scone said:
No, because I'm not a games developer or qualified to do so. The only takeaway I can give you is that monitoring vbuffer usage via tools such as Afterburner that communicate with NVAPI doesn't tell you anything at all worth knowing. DirectX12 gives developers far more control over middleware, meaning even more so than ever before, seeing high allocation cannot always be attributed to what is needed for optimum performance.

Ish. It gives an idea, but that can be misleading depending on the engine design, concurrent access to the GPU, the rendering API being used, and all sorts of other variables including Windows itself. Also it's worth noting that stuttering is very different to low frames per second without stuttering, in terms of root cause.

TNA · 27 Oct 2020 at 14:29

SeeNoWeevil said:
Looking forward to the 2080ti destroying the 3070 in benchmarks with its superior VRAM allocation. Right guys?

Lol

Hickaru · 28 Oct 2020 at 04:00

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-preparing-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-with-9984-cuda-cores

So after the 3070 and 3080 with 16 and 20 gigs were cancelled.

Latest rumours point to a 3070ti with 10gb of g6x and 3080ti with 12gb of g6x with increased cuda core counts.

I really hope amd forces nvidia to price these like extremely competetively. Like if the 3080ti is around $799 I am definitely buying one lol

Chuk_Chuk · 28 Oct 2020 at 06:56

Hickaru said:
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-preparing-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-with-9984-cuda-cores

So after the 3070 and 3080 with 16 and 20 gigs were cancelled.

Latest rumours point to a 3070ti with 10gb of g6x and 3080ti with 12gb of g6x with increased cuda core counts.

I really hope amd forces nvidia to price these like extremely competetively. Like if the 3080ti is around $799 I am definitely buying one lol

So they finally decided to give us what they should have done in the first place. How generous of them.

Richdog · 28 Oct 2020 at 07:00

Hickaru said:
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-preparing-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-with-9984-cuda-cores

Latest rumours point to a 3070ti with 10gb of g6x and 3080ti with 12gb of g6x with increased cuda core counts.

I really hope amd forces nvidia to price these like extremely competetively. Like if the 3080ti is around $799 I am definitely buying one lol

If this is true then people who bought a 3080 at launch, especially at FOMO gouging prices, really got screwed.

Kaapstad · 28 Oct 2020 at 07:00

Chuk_Chuk said:
So they finally decided to give us what they should have done in the first place. How generous of them.

Wait until you see the price. :eek:

Chuk_Chuk · 28 Oct 2020 at 07:13

Kaapstad said:
Wait until you see the price.

True. Nvidia gives with one hand and takes with the other.

Well we will know what sort of price they will launch at by this afternoons. Choo choo.

Troezar · 28 Oct 2020 at 07:23

I get the feeling there's going to be some fallout with this generation of Nvidia cards

Richdog · 28 Oct 2020 at 07:39

Troezar said:
I get the feeling there's going to be some fallout with this generation of Nvidia cards

I think the reputational damage from this disaster of a launch will be worse than it was with Turing not being the performer that people expected.

Stu · 28 Oct 2020 at 09:44

Hickaru said:
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-preparing-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-with-9984-cuda-cores

So after the 3070 and 3080 with 16 and 20 gigs were cancelled.

Latest rumours point to a 3070ti with 10gb of g6x and 3080ti with 12gb of g6x with increased cuda core counts.

I really hope amd forces nvidia to price these like extremely competetively. Like if the 3080ti is around $799 I am definitely buying one lol

I find the increased CUDA core count and wider memory bus more interesting than the increased vram.

gpuerrilla · 28 Oct 2020 at 10:40

Richdog said:
I think the reputational damage from this disaster of a launch will be worse than it was with Turing not being the performer that people expected.

Agree. Turing was overpriced, lots of people woke up. Ampere launch IMO couldnt have got any worse. Not as big a leap as was promised, not enough games using RTX, only 4k capable card is the 3080 (when pushed to see that it really is a beast), no stock, gouging from thieves, bulk buyers, bots etc, MSRP basically unattainable for regular folk, cards large and power hungry. Probably many more but you get my point.

If AMD make only 1 or 2 of these booboos they would have been flamed to oblivion.

Tiny_D · 28 Oct 2020 at 11:46

Chuk_Chuk said:
So they finally decided to give us what they should have done in the first place. How generous of them.

It's like Nvidia planned this all along ;-)

Dave2150 · 28 Oct 2020 at 12:08

Twinz said:
Nvidia can't ignore AMD this time. If the stack they have doesn't cut it, they will have no choice but to make changes.

If it takes a 3090 with less vram, that's what will happen. And the price point will be dictated by whatever competition AMD brings.

This reminds me of the price/performance predictions before the 3080 launched. It's like some people think Nvida is the all-powerful Wizard of Oz, and we are totally at their mercy.

"3090 performance is $1400! The Wizard of Oz has spoken."

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

3080ti is almost certainly going to be the 12GB TSMC 7nm card that's been rumoured, and will be faster than the 3090. IMO anyway - we'll see how much faster it needs to be if AMD show performance of their top card today.