Doesn't make a difference in the eyes of the law. They can't compel you to do something that might put your safety at risk.
12 to 15 year old gangs
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Doesn't make a difference in the eyes of the law. They can't compel you to do something that might put your safety at risk.
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Bad parenting. Hold parents responsible. 10% fine of the annual salary of their parents on first offence, or of benefits if on benefits. And prison if kids re-offend. Suddenly parents will start taking an interest in what their kids are getting up to and teach them the consequences associated with getting into trouble.
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Yeah ive heard its because they not got anything to do and no where to go which is BS. I had nothing to do back in 90s either but we would never cause trouble like these are doing. To be fair its not the police its the justice system. Police are doing there job like when they came out to my brothers straight away. When i reported anti social behaviour on police web site they came out with in a hour which i didnt think they would do as i thought i was just reporting it letting them know. But i think because its happening a lot around my area they came out.
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The police already have the kid's name because I've already named them (I went down after my son called me and accosted them both), and so has my son. He's known around here.
near brightton grove is where they dumped all the new arrivals.
have a drive along fenham road at night or day. seems to be always a group of about 10-20 grown men hanging around on one of the corners.
cultural enrichment.
all the older generations of 3rd+ gen brits who lived around there are long gone, they seemed to start moving out pronto as soon as they saw what was happening.
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It doesn't make a difference unfortunately. They can't compel anyone. Which sucks.
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The biggest suck is the police inaction. Hence the complaint.
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I laughed at a shop sign today it said. Shop lifters will be prosecuted
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Brighton Grove itself has some nice houses. I guess they’ve put the new arrivals in that block of streets full of 2 ups 2 downs between BG and Beaconsfield street heading towards town.
There's an off licence not far from where I live that's been around since I was in my teens, a couple of generations of the same family run it. The shoplifting has become so bad over the past few years they're losing money, and the people doing it don't even attempt to hide their actions and nothing gets done. They're currently looking to sell up and move on elsewhere, lord knows where given it seems to be happening everywhere and it's not a particularly bad area they're in either, in fact it's one of the better ones in the town I'm talking about.
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remember this gem from 2017
Shoplifters taking under £200 worth of goods 'not pursued'
Retailers warn a rise in shoplifting is partly fuelled by police not investigating smaller thefts.
www.bbc.co.uk
chocolate police force that melts at the sight of criminals
I’ve probably said this a million times but I’m surprised more off licences don’t become effectively “holes in the wall” where you have to go to a window to get served and all of the goods are locked away.
It would be inefficient, service wise, but maybe they could have a way to pre-order online so they could have your stuff ready.
remember this gem from 2017
wonder why its so rampant now.Shoplifters taking under £200 worth of goods 'not pursued'
Retailers warn a rise in shoplifting is partly fuelled by police not investigating smaller thefts.
chocolate police force that melts at the sight of criminals
Regularly contributed to by the fact that retailers, contrary to all the signs dotted around their stores, very often don't actually want to support police action, or staff don't want to provide a statement because they might have to go to court. They get a ban or a warning and off they go to the next one.
Also not helped by stores refusing or ignoring crime prevention advice like moving frequently-stolen stock away from entrances etc because "head office says we can't".
I actually remember seeing hole in the wall off licences a fair bit back in the late 80's and early-mid 90's and now they've all but disappeared.
If they worked back then there's no reason they couldn't now, many 24 hour places such as garage/petrol stations function that way during certain hours just fine. My local puts the shutters down around 7pm I think and they don't go back up until 8-9 or so, it's slightly more hassle but if you primarily sell alcohol it shouldn't be too much of a chore, especially now as like you say there's the option of online ordering.
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remember this gem from 2017
Shoplifters taking under £200 worth of goods 'not pursued'
Retailers warn a rise in shoplifting is partly fuelled by police not investigating smaller thefts.
chocolate police force that melts at the sight of criminals
This comment makes no sense in the context of the article, which is about not having the resources to investigate reported crime.
They sure as hell seem to have the resources to investigate posts on social media, many of which should come under freedom of speech as far as I'm concerned.
Then there's the fact I've on numerous occasions quite literally watched the police ignore people drunk and drinking in public places like high streets while harassing people, among other issues they should have involved themselves with, it's not just a resource thing it's at least some of the time them opting to not bother. I got a bollocking when I was 18 or so while watching an air show in Sunderland on the beach because I had a four pack of lager with some friends. We weren't bothering anyone, just keeping to ourselves and enjoying the show. I passed through Gateshead high street the other week only to witness 4-5 people openly drinking next to the bank I had to visit while harassing people for money so they could "buy some food" while a police car with a couple of female officers over the road popped into Savers. I was only in the bank for 5 minutes, when I came out the scrotes where still harassing people and the police had driven off.
Edit/Addendum: It's not just a lack of funds, it's a lack of proper direction and focus.
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That's fair, but I hope we can all agree that people getting offended on the internet via a social media post should take a back seat to things happening in actual reality. There's a ton of problems with the way our police system works and at least half of it is due to the way we view and prioritise crime, this isn't a new thing either just to avoid getting overly current events overcharged political as I really do not like to do that.
Look at the chief medical officer fired way back when for pointing out that weed and one or two other illegal drugs were less harmful than alcohol?
Do you know how much money is spent dealing with illegal mary jane farms and the criminals involved? Legalise it and you'd not only boost the economy via tax but you'd ruin a very healthy source of income for criminals. I can't stand the stuff but I don't feel it should be criminal given it's far less dangerous than alcohol and even has medical benefits in some situations.
My point is we're not only constantly cutting back on funding, but we're misdirecting the entire police force in frankly ridiculous ways while joe public is suffering due to it.
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Whenever i see discussion about child gangs this is the first thing that always come to mind.
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