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12GB vram enough for 4K? Discuss..

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i spoke in jest..
but really if you want to spin a narrative..
- AAA title released in 2023 (got to be since they are charging 80$)
- supports DX12.1
- RT included
- supports AI image scaling tech

and.. then end with a big subjective statement like "this is supposed to be the start of next gen development cycle and will lay down the direction for future games"
this is what i exactly saw when people were trying to push assassins creed games as a valid benchmark for showcasing graphics card capabilities
 
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Bottom line:

- dropping settings to target (at least) 60fps can offer a good experience or is vRAM limited?

- how about for 45-60 fps?

-how about for 30 - 45 fps?

If there is a problem, how many games have that problem? In how many games the problem exists due to lazy cooding or devrloper bot giving a sh**t?

Not the least... how many games run without issues and how how much you overpay for silly amounts of vRAM that do nothing outside of consuming energy for nothing?

Forza Horizons 5.

When you ignore the VRam warnings the game throws at you while in the game this starts happening, look at the road surface, the trees on the left.

The GPU has enough grunt for 60Hz at this res and settings, i keep hearing about how 8GB was enough for the 3070, or 10GB enough for a 3080, my GPU's a 2070 Super, 8GB is not enough for that.

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I see Tommy has disappeared. Refusing to update the OP. The list in the OP should be empty really :cry:

Forza Horizons 5.

When you ignore the VRam warnings the game throws at you while in the game this starts happening, look at the road surface, the trees on the left.

The GPU has enough grunt for 60Hz at this res and settings, i keep hearing about how 8GB was enough for the 3070, or 10GB enough for a 3080, my GPU's a 2070 Super, 8GB is not enough for that.

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This is the 12GB thread mate.. Maybe time for you to upgrade if you are having issues? :p
 
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Forza Horizons 5.

When you ignore the VRam warnings the game throws at you while in the game this starts happening, look at the road surface, the trees on the left.

The GPU has enough grunt for 60Hz at this res and settings, i keep hearing about how 8GB was enough for the 3070, or 10GB enough for a 3080, my GPU's a 2070 Super, 8GB is not enough for that.

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Having not play much Forza I'm not sure what the issue with the trees is. The road surface looks pretty naff tbf but how would it look if you had a glorious RDNA3 7900XT installed instead?
 
Imagine driving so slowly in this type of game that you notice such things though. I am usually driving so fast can barely stay on the road. Not cruising 5mph looking for missing textures on the road.

Besides what does his post prove if anything at all? 8GB is not enough? Glad this is the 12gb thread then :p
 
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The bad road surface is cased by the reflection layer, like the tree textures it cannot stream it, so it looks like that, a blurry, corrupted, muddy mess. It can't fit any of it in the buffer.

First people in here going on about 10gb because they can't find any games running out of 12gb, now we run out of those too, team red have sent this guy to bang on about 8gb :p

Next they will send someone in arguing 970's 3.5gb is not enough :cry:
 
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The fact that this thread has gone on for 28 pages shows that having enough VRAM is a real concern to a lot of people. Having enough should be the norm, and not something that needs hundreds of comments.

That's why they sell 3090 and 4090's or red flavoured options if you are inclined to go in that direction.

But yes, you are right, gpuerrila had the right idea when he paid £750 extra for the 3090 over a 3080. The extra vram allowed him to play FC6 maxed out with the optional textures near release before it was fixed.

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Actually the threads been going on for so long because it is good fun just like the 10gb one was. So far OP has yet to find any examples and has gone into hiding. I am sure he will be back once FC7 is released :p
 
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The fact that this thread has gone on for 28 pages shows that having enough VRAM is a real concern to a lot of people. Having enough should be the norm, and not something that needs hundreds of comments.
It mostly seems to be a concern for the people that have lots of VRAM, they seem to be concerned for the people that they think don't have enough (a lot of whom don't seem so worried), which is nice of them I guess.
 
It mostly seems to be a concern for the people that have lots of VRAM, they seem to be concerned for the people that they think don't have enough (a lot of whom don't seem so worried), which is nice of them I guess.

Thier concern is probably why they have lots of VRam, i'm concerned about it, so guess what, after my now third consecutive generation Nvidia 70 class card i have already ruled the 3070 out
 
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Thier concern is probably why they have lots of VRam, i'm concerned about it, so guess what, after my now third consecutive generation Nvidia 70 class card i have already ruled the 3070 out

12GB is not enough!! What card you rocking bro? An 8GB one. Ah ok...

Your like at least the the third person in this thresd. Could easily go 6700 XT for little outlay. But nope, rather whinge about textures on the road in a racing game where instead of racing one drives at 5mph seaching for potholes, I mean missing textures :p
 
Thier concern is probably why they have lots of VRam, i'm concerned about it, so guess what, after my now third consecutive generation Nvidia 70 class card i have already ruled the 3070 out
On the plus side your next card will probably last until SC comes out!

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This is how I imagine LtMatt in one of his meetings with his team going via dm on discord.

Right lads, huddle up. Only you three this week? Anyway. Forspoken did not go to plan as expected, here's what I want you to do.

Gpuerrila, you carry on doing the same by slating the 3080 even if it is obvious that's the card you wanted all along. Chin up, I promise that extra vram will come in handy soon, can't say much but FC7, shh did not hear that from me ;)

Humbug, where you at bro, get in here. I need to deploy you into the 12gb thread. I know it does not make sense as you only have an 8gb card, but need to create confusion. As you know reframing is one of our best tools. Go do your job using this tool no matter how ridiculous it sounds. It will be all worth it mate. Still working on getting you that free 6800 XT. Do me this one more solid and I am sure I will be able to convince Lisa in our next clandestine meeting!

Tommy, make yourself scarce. Whatever you do, do not post in that thread and do not update the OP. You have done a great job with the thread so far, don't **** it up now.

OK, meeting adjourned. Go team red go!

Opens a private dm to tommy..

Don't worry. Remember the clandestine meeting I mentioned earlier? Well what no one else knows is uncle Jensen will be there also! Lisa and her uncle get together now and then to sort out our pricing strategy. I will try and have a word with him at the end about getting you that 3090 that you really wanted as last time I was only able to get you a 3080 ;)

:p:cry::D
 
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All that vram going to town I see.

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gpuerrila after seeing that:

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Sorry to break your streak but that game has enormous texture loading issues on VRAM limited cards, especially 10 GB ones. Before making sense of these results, you need to compare both GPU and their image quality.
Instead of tanking performance, game simply decides to teleport textures back to N64 era;
Look at the second comparison, the test is done with a 3080. 3080 is capable of ultra+rt+57 fps in that scene but take a close look, see how some of the textures are not loaded. Low settings load textures because it has "texture memory budget" set to low, which allows GPU to use a tinier but smaller VRAM buffer for textures.

So no, this game is not a good example to show that VRAM is irrevelant in that case, if anything, it would put NVIDIA cards in a very, very bad place if what I think is true. I don't have a 10 gb card to test but if anyone owns them, they're free to try. However 12 GB might also prove to be a challenge at 4K when it comes to loading proper textures. Just my 2 cents.
 
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