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13700KF Temps

Weird bios MSI.

no that's intels spec's, MSI is just helping you run the CPU right. try fully uncapped on a low profile cooler.... but on the flip run the cpu capped at 125w on custom water.
What MSI did is a good thing for people that dont know what to adjust in bios for intel specs, they made a simple tic box its good

and the running the CPU uncapped at 4069w was been on every brand of intel board its not MSI
 
Thanks for all the info guys. Will hopefully have a bit of time tomorrow night to install a rear fan and cap the P1/P2 wattages in BIOS. I had noticed cooler type was set to water too, so changed that to tower cooler. Hopefully that will cool things down a bit.

After that my sons are staying with me for 9 days so there won't be much time for PC tinkering next week. Definitely going to think about an AIO though too, I've always been a bit nervous of liquid cooling but I assume AIOs are fairly straightforward to set up and install?
 
Doing this will cap p1 and p2 for you. You don’t need to change anything more
No it does not. My last board was a z690 unifyi. PL numbers are always over 4000 regardless of setting. Always had to change it, melts in CB15 or whatever otherwise. If other people's boards work fine, all cool.
 
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Thanks for all the info guys. Will hopefully have a bit of time tomorrow night to install a rear fan and cap the P1/P2 wattages in BIOS. I had noticed cooler type was set to water too, so changed that to tower cooler. Hopefully that will cool things down a bit.

After that my sons are staying with me for 9 days so there won't be much time for PC tinkering next week. Definitely going to think about an AIO though too, I've always been a bit nervous of liquid cooling but I assume AIOs are fairly straightforward to set up and install?
Just double check regardless of what cooler type you choose is my advice.
 
I would expect an air cooler to hit Tjmax on that CPU if it's actually pulling the full 253W. If your Cinebench scores align with what you see in reviews then I think it's fine
It’s doesn’t, at a full 16 thread load it’s only about 160w. The high watts come with less cores and more MHz
 
No it does not. My last board was a z690 unifyi. PL numbers are always over 4000 regardless of setting. Always had to change it, melts in CB15 or whatever otherwise. If other people's boards work fine, all cool.

Just double check regardless of what cooler type you choose is my advice.

You are probably right then. Got rid of mine a long ago. Good job MSI.

So your just chatting crap then. :D :D :D
 
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So your just chatting crap then. :D :D :D
You got psychological issues? It is common knowledge that everything that I stated occurs on MSI boards, be my guest and go to many other forums with same issues. I had a Z690 mobo and the PL numbers are overshot by miles and you are a absolute liar who suggests otherwise. If MSI have fixed this very, very recently then good for them, you can keep your anal attitudes to yourself.
 
You literally said my board doesn’t do that…. Or it may I don’t know no not had one for a bit
 
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You got psychological issues? It is common knowledge that everything that I stated occurs on MSI boards, be my guest and go to many other forums with same issues. I had a Z690 mobo and the PL numbers are overshot by miles and you are a absolute liar who suggests otherwise. If MSI have fixed this very, very recently then good for them, you can keep your anal attitudes to yourself.

So I’ll buy a z690 msi board and if your wrong you will cover the cost because it’s common knowledge this happens?
 
The 13700KF has 24 threads and 160w in Cinebench would indicate severe throttling
remove the E-Cores and try again

bless sticking your boot in...

8E cores
8P cores and 16P threads

the E cores are Atome cores and only carry one thread and are not used at full load
info from intel.... at base clock the CPU will use 125 W,,, at max turbo 253 W, ((cooling dependent))

The 13700KF has 24 threads and 160w in Cinebench would indicate severe throttling
this CPU would compilate Cinebench in the same way any cpu would.. max none turbo speed and well under the TDP(if cooling is ok)
 
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remove the E-Cores and try again

bless sticking your boot in...

8E cores
8P cores and 16P threads

the E cores are Atome cores and only carry one thread and are not used at full load
info from intel.... at base clock the CPU will use 125 W,,, at max turbo 253 W, ((cooling dependent))


this CPU would compilate Cinebench in the same way any cpu would.. max none turbo speed and well under the TDP(if cooling is ok)
E cores aren't atom cores, and they still count as threads... and they are still used at full load. A lack of hyperthreading doesn't make it not a real core/thread. I don't know what you keep babbling on about but its mostly wrong mate.
 
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Sorry but you’re wrong.
E cores aren't atom cores, and they still count as threads... and they are still used at full load. A lack of hyperthreading doesn't make it not a real core/thread. I don't know what you keep babbling on about but its mostly wrong mate.

The E core is Atom.

Atom family of CPUs.
  • 2008: Bonnell
  • 2011: Saltwell
  • 2013: Silvermont
  • 2015: Airmont
  • 2016: Goldmont
  • 2017: Goldmont Plus
  • 2020: Tremont
  • 2021: Gracemont
 
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Guess I wasn't aware it was part of the Atom family. Doesn't really invalidate anything else I said, though.

It kind of does. Intel have two very different architectures with very different abilities to process workloads. Tasks are sorted sent to right core for the task. It’s not one unified coherent chip. Some tasks are lake or Atom depending what bucket they are in.
 
It kind of does. Intel have two very different architectures with very different abilities to process workloads. Tasks are sorted sent to right core for the task. It’s not one unified coherent chip. Some tasks are lake or Atom depending what bucket they are in.
It definitely doesn't because what I actually said was that a 13700K/F can hit the power limit in Cinebench, has 24 threads and that the E cores are fully utilized in Cinebench. The E cores being a different architecture that rely on the thread director doesn't mean you can pretend that they aren't actual cores.
 
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