Caporegime
35 years of knowing the difference between a healthy CPU and a broken one.Please tell us the crux of this matter that your industry knowledge has foreseen for so long, we’re all ears
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35 years of knowing the difference between a healthy CPU and a broken one.Please tell us the crux of this matter that your industry knowledge has foreseen for so long, we’re all ears
It booted Windows? Wow Pat,...awesome, I'll get my wallet open.
CPU is ****ed. end of.We don't even know that yet, only a small number of people claiming failure rates are that high. I know people who are running loads of 13th and 14th gen systems who've only encountered a tiny number of CPUs which are failing in certain situations which are probably this problem.
Also something that may be relevant, though mixed laptop, etc. systems might go against that a bit - in these contexts where a studio or server hosting company does a big update to their hardware they'll often be provided via trayed CPUs - so may be a batch problem.
If i9s with 1.503v vcore are failing rapidly, what's happening to the 1.483v parts? Are those enduring, or just degrading more slowly? Ideally they will want to find what the long-term safe voltage is, because going forward all chips that can't run at or below that voltage will have to be discarded. That's going to need physical inspection of a whole pile of both failed and working chips. Not easy or cheap.
Is 1.45v the max safe recommeded voltage as I've run some benchmarks/heavy loads on my 13600K with alittle undervolt and it doesn't go above 1.1v but I've seen a few posts where peoples I9's are running above 1.45vAs I've previously posted, people who work for Intel have previous kind of mentioned they don't run theirs above 1.45V... probably not an idle comment.
Is 1.45v the max safe recommeded voltage as I've run some benchmarks/heavy loads on my 13600K with alittle undervolt and it doesn't go above 1.1v but I've seen a few posts where peoples I9's are running above 1.45v
The Intel datasheet specs VCC up to 1.72V - individual cores I've seen pushing past 1.6V on some CPUs. I dunno what is max safe just aware of conversations in the past where people who work for Intel have mentioned they don't run their 13th/14th gen CPUs over 1.45V but just a throw away comment so may not be meaningful.
Denial.I don't understand why some people cheerlead for companies that are concerned only with making a buck and pleasing their shareholders.
35 years of knowing the difference between a healthy CPU and a broken one.
The Intel datasheet specs VCC up to 1.72V - individual cores I've seen pushing past 1.6V on some CPUs. I dunno what is max safe just aware of conversations in the past where people who work for Intel have mentioned they don't run their 13th/14th gen CPUs over 1.45V but just a throw away comment so may not be meaningful.
VCC spec hasn't changed from 12th Gen
Yes but I don't recall seeing 12th gen CPUs running much over 1.4V max, usually high 1.2x to mid 1.3x.
These days for a lot of publicly traded corporations only short term money matters (because of the financial reports and shareholders and push for infinite growth). Expect them to react with that in mind.They are, its a battle between long term reputation and short term money
Base profile losses performance ?
Well if this fixes the issue on non degraded chips its a trade off I imagine most will be happy to swallow. Honestly its nothing that anyone would really notice in real world scenarios.Depends on the workload. Gaming, no. High current all core workloads, yes some.
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