You should be buying more stuff fresh and often, and for the rest get home delivery from a supermarket. A single van likely does 8+ stops, taking 8+ cars off the road.
15 Minute Cities
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How will a home delivery not work for a large family?
If it worked so well why did you see people with fully loaded trollies being pushed around in every supermarket, and for some they like to stop afterwards in the cafe there and have a cooked meal (which has always baffled me a bit).
Plus, sometimes (Aldi/Lidl) you can’t get everything you need in one place, and not all do home delivery (and those that do will charge for it).
I get what you’re saying, but there will need to be compromises by people who aren’t prepared to compromise.
It’ll be almost impossible to break the mindset.
Plus, sometimes (Aldi/Lidl) you can’t get everything you need in one place, and not all do home delivery (and those that do will charge for it).
I get what you’re saying, but there will need to be compromises by people who aren’t prepared to compromise.
It’ll be almost impossible to break the mindset.
Mindsets like yours, you mean? "That obviously isn't going to work for large families"
We've got the local little shopping centre 5 minutes walk away (if I dawdle) that includes a little Tesco, post office, barbers, vets, pharmacy, chippy, Greggs, dentist, drs, pub, church then another pub around the corner, school/nursery/gym/swimming pool 1 minute walk away. Lidl another 5 minutes from that.
I'd actually not realised how much we had until I'd just listed it out, my wife will still jump in the car to get to all of those things though
It definitely takes longer messing about getting in the car, navigating the crap parking blocking our road and then getting parked than it does to walk.
I'd actually not realised how much we had until I'd just listed it out, my wife will still jump in the car to get to all of those things though
It definitely takes longer messing about getting in the car, navigating the crap parking blocking our road and then getting parked than it does to walk.
I live in a small village next to a very small town, but within 15mins of walking :
* 2 small groceries, baker and patisserie, butcher, 3-4 restaurant/bars, multiple hair dressers, 24hr gym, post office, have a weekly fresh market etc
with 15mins public transport I have
* multiple larger supermarket, bricolage and hardware stores, shopping mall with many clothing brands, countless restaurants.
15 minute cities are already the normal in many European cities.
I do most of my big weekly shopping online that cuts down on multiple car trips - the food is delivered by the regular postman so there are zero additional miles.
* 2 small groceries, baker and patisserie, butcher, 3-4 restaurant/bars, multiple hair dressers, 24hr gym, post office, have a weekly fresh market etc
with 15mins public transport I have
* multiple larger supermarket, bricolage and hardware stores, shopping mall with many clothing brands, countless restaurants.
15 minute cities are already the normal in many European cities.
I do most of my big weekly shopping online that cuts down on multiple car trips - the food is delivered by the regular postman so there are zero additional miles.
Well it clearly isn't is it.
Obviously.
I tell you what, I'll give you a pass on posting "AI" drivel if you explain to everyone why you pretend to be a girl on the internet?
We were a family of 6 (4 children) and my Mum did the vast majority of the food shopping without a car. And fertility rates are dropping... How many families have 5 children in the UK? 1%? People have changed their lives around the use of a car and forgotten how to live without one. I can carry 2 good sized bags and walk home with shopping, I remember people used to have little trolleys for shopping.
"Tell me you've never lived in a city without actually saying it."
I don’t know where the people above live who seem to have everything within 15 mins of them but I live in a city and the only thing within 15 mins of me is a drive through Costa and a post office. The nearest grocery shop is 40 mins and so is the gym. Doctors is 20 mins.
If the government is serious about making 15 min cities they should figure out how to make small local shops more profitable. Increasing NI contributions per employee doesn’t help with that.
If the government is serious about making 15 min cities they should figure out how to make small local shops more profitable. Increasing NI contributions per employee doesn’t help with that.
McDonalds managed to put down a brand new McDonalds in a fortnight in my town, they just dropped the building in place and plumbed it in. This was several years ago, so I imagine with advances in technology 15 minutes for a new city is not out of the question.
Sounds like you should move to Cardiff... I don't live in the city itself but, aside from the the train into town, I can drive to 2 supermarkets in 8 minutes. Extending the drive, I can get to 9 supermarkets in 18 minutes or less. That's not even including the likes of Lidl or Aldi, or smaller shops.
Where on Earth do you live that only has a Costa and post office 15 mins away?!
It Might not have been clear in my post but these are walking times.Sounds like you should move to Cardiff... I don't live in the city itself but, aside from the the train into town, I can drive to 2 supermarkets in 8 minutes. Extending the drive, I can get to 9 supermarkets in 18 minutes or less. That's not even including the likes of Lidl or Aldi, or smaller shops.
Where on Earth do you live that only has a Costa and post office 15 mins away?!
Ahhh, apologies. I read drive and thought car. Literally a drive-through Costa.
That's still a hell of a long walk. Do you live in the city itself or in the suburbs?
Yep, we used to do this too when we lived in a city, about 5 minutes walk from the shop. No need for a car most of the time, just walk and carry the stuff home.
We live more rural now and while we do have a Co-op in the village, there's nae chance of me walking an hour to the local Sainsbury's for a bigger shop and then an hour walk back home. Driving or home delivery are the only options.
This is no doubt an increasing problem (I think someone mentioned it earlier) with a lot of new housing developments too - they're focused on cramming as many houses as possible into a given space but there is no additional amenity provided far too often. A recent development near me - hundreds of houses, the nearest shop is a small local co-op (on its own, not even a little row of shops) that's a 35 minute walk away. GP surgery? 45 min walk. School? 25 min walk. etc. etc. - anything those people need, effectively necessitates making a car journey.