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varkanoid said:
So to put it another way OCUK are selling delidded CPU's at a premium making money out of a shoddy job done by Intel (again). What makes it worse is that OCUK seem to have contacted Intel and Intel are okay with it.

Business is business and fair play to OCUK jumping on a money making opportunity and offering a warranty I`m sure people will buy the product. Do OCUK also offer warranty on any CPU's delidded using the device they sell ? Probably not.
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You could always run the risk doing it your self but your at risk and if things go wrong your chances with warranty are not great but some have got away with it. For some people will pay for binned delided chips instead of going to the hassle them selfs. Its what they pay the extra for.
 
If you want a delidded chip all you have to do is way up the price, chip + delid kit = an amount of cash, and the chance that it is a poor overclocker.
A chip that had been though the binning and delidding process that is sold as to run at lets say 5ghz with an intact guarantee. Without the risk of ****** it up has got to be worth a premium, just not too much.
 
DragonQ said:
I'm guessing it's no more expensive, maybe ever cheaper, to just go X99, which already have soldered heat spreaders.
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X99 is far more expensive and is slower for most games, due to Haswell/Broadwell being an old architecture and 99% of games not using more than 4 cores.
 
Dave2150 said:
X99 is far more expensive and is slower for most games, due to Haswell/Broadwell being an old architecture and 99% of games not using more than 4 cores.
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How do you know it's far more expensive when we haven't seen pricing for delidded and/or guaranteed clock Kaby Lake CPUs yet?
 
Dave2150 said:
X99 is far more expensive and is slower for most games, due to Haswell/Broadwell being an old architecture and 99% of games not using more than 4 cores.
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It's close, but at the end of the day if you are ONLY gaming and nothing else, X99 is a bit of a waste. That said, you can get some good deals on the 5820k now. Not worth a hefty premium though unless you're doing video encoding work etc.

I will be interested to see how Ryzen stacks up against top end Kaby, especially if delidded binned CPUs are going to be capable of circa 5Ghz. Ryzen isn't going to achieve that no matter what the rumours say... 4.2-4.4 seems to be where it will settle. Nothing to be sniffed at, but for a pure gaming rig and with no more than 4-cores being utilised most of the time, Kaby is surely going to outperform it when overclocked.
 
slower is some older games newer games its level or games that use the extra cores better.also rest of system is quite a bit quicker on x99 platform.

new amd chips and more cores are the way now.bf1 is better on more cores.
 
String said:
+1

Given the length of time since OP, you've got to wonder at the point of posting so soon before having anything to actually say.
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Two ASCII characters. Two. A simple wink. I bet it didn't even take five seconds to post. Then pages upon pages of speculation, hype, rivalry... It's marketing genius. Why wait until you're about to announce? It kills the whole point of the exercise. Gibbo you are a genius.
 
Dave2150 said:
X99 is far more expensive and is slower for most games, due to Haswell/Broadwell being an old architecture and 99% of games not using more than 4 cores.
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Legend said:
It's close, but at the end of the day if you are ONLY gaming and nothing else, X99 is a bit of a waste. That said, you can get some good deals on the 5820k now. Not worth a hefty premium though unless you're doing video encoding work etc.

I will be interested to see how Ryzen stacks up against top end Kaby, especially if delidded binned CPUs are going to be capable of circa 5Ghz. Ryzen isn't going to achieve that no matter what the rumours say... 4.2-4.4 seems to be where it will settle. Nothing to be sniffed at, but for a pure gaming rig and with no more than 4-cores being utilised most of the time, Kaby is surely going to outperform it when overclocked.
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I'd be interested to see a reviewer start testing FPS and input lag when gaming with 2 monitors and a twitch stream or youtube video on at the same time while gaming.

It's starting to become a trend to multitask in some way, like having a film on in the background while playing something.

And Linus did an interesting video about how a very high core CPU wouldn't slow down in gaming performance as you added extra things for it to do. So although it would be slower than a 5 GHz Kaby if you were ONLY playing a game at the time, it'd be interesting to see when multitasking.

The Linus video: https://youtu.be/-GgDZKGA89I
 
benjii said:
What's supposed to be happening today? An NDA lift or something like that?
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CES starts today. Vega reveal in 2 days and some are expecting more news of Ryzen and it's motherboards. Whilst Kabylakes is definitely imminent.

no one knows if this imminent teaser thread is for Kabylake or Ryzen but both have releases soon.
 
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