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The only thing that bothers me (apart from core count) is the PCI-E lanes. Next setup i want to have 2x PCI-E M.2 drives and potentially SLI.

However, this is VERY tempting for a small LAN build. De-Lid and no-overclock will give for a very small and quiet machine.
 
StarShock said:
This could be interesting. As far as I can see if someone already has a 4core8thread system basically from Ivybridge up you'll see very little tangible improvement in upgrading. I mean the 7700k will do everything better than the older i7s, but unless you have a frame counter or stop watch you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.
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There's a video on youtube which if real shows vast differences in some games between the 3770k and 6700k, think it's 30% in some games with the latest GPU's while no improvements in others. Think they cover the 2600 too in the FPS comparison. THat difference in some games ,if real, is big enough to justify an upgrade. I have both and have at least one of the games with a big difference so if I get the time and can be at**ed I may try my 10 series GPU in both and capture the stats.

If you want to ensure you're getting the best experience and optimising the use of your modern GPU you'd surely want the latest processor's too ? The 3770 is nearly five years old now, the 2500/2600 even older.
 
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DarrenM343 said:
There's a video on youtube which if real shows vast differences in some games between the 3770k and 6700k, think it's 30% in some games with the latest GPU's while no improvements in others. Think they cover the 2600 too in the FPS comparison. THat difference in some games ,if real, is big enough to justify an upgrade. I have both and have at least one of the games with a big difference so if I get the time and can be at**ed I may try my 10 series GPU in both and capture the stats.

If you want to ensure you're getting the best experience and optimising the use of your modern GPU you'd surely want the latest processor's too ? The 3770 is nearly five years old now, the 2500/2600 even older.
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Is that clock for clock or just stock vs stock? The 6700K has a fair base frequency boost over the 3770K. I'd imagine clock for clock it'd be a lot less than 30%.
 
karik666 said:
Last time i upgraded my pc Aug 2009.

Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping (SLBEJ) 2.66Ghz (Nehalem) (Socket LGA1366) - Retail
CP-280-IN
1
£201.99*


Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
MB-155-GI
1
£190.99*


Patriot Viper 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600MHz) Low Latency Tri-Channel (PVT36G1600LLK) + 3D Mark Vantage Benchmarking Software
MY-017-PA
1
£86.99*


Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366)
HS-005-NC
1
£57.99*

Total came to £557.80 incl delivery. from ocuk.

Must admit i didnt realise i had paid so much for the Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5,but its been flawless for the last 7 years.
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I thought I was crazy plonking over £200 on an X58 motherboard but paying £230 (inc VAT) for my i7-920 felt fine. 2009 was a great time to buy, in part due to incredible strength of the pound against the dollar and the 15% VAT rate. Motherboard prices are even worse now though, it seems!
 
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DarrenM343 said:
Just found it, all clocked to 4.4. Worth a watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sx1kLGVAF0
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Interesting to see larger gains here than in most other benchmarks. However, the tests are merely that - hypothetical benchmarks. No-one is running an overclocked Titan X at 1080p; in reality your GPU will hold you back more than the CPU and I suspect in real-world cases the FPS differences are negligbile (particularly considering the cost to upgrade).
 
It's the fps minimums that are more important than averages boosted by higher maximums due to architecture improvements. Quite often the benchmarks you see don't cater for this very well.
 
yes benchmarks for games especially are often done poorly.

fps games and mp for eg.often they bench the single player.when mp is a different story.

also show cpu intense games in benchmarks and games people play all the time.
 
DragonQ said:
I thought I was crazy plonking over £200 on an X58 motherboard but paying £230 (inc VAT) for my i7-920 felt fine. 2009 was a great time to buy, in part due to incredible strength of the pound against the dollar and the 15% VAT rate. Motherboard prices are even worse now though, it seems!
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Yep, the only time in my life when the motherboard I purchased cost more than the CPU. Swear I never do that again.....might change at this rate!
 
pastymuncher said:
Is it just me or is overclocking becoming largely irrelevant these days? Haswell wasn't exactly a good clocker, Skylake even less so and Kabylake looks to be even worse. Even if all 7770k's could hit 5Ghz (which they won't) that's only a 800mhz boost over the base clock and 500mhz over the turbo clock. That's just rubbish yet they (Intel) charge extra for a unlocked k series cpu which could be a abysmal clocker or, if you are extremely lucky, a very rare golden chip. The glory days of overclocking when you could get up to double the clockspeed out of a cpu are long gone. Maybe AMD will give us some hope with Zen and it will be highly overclockable. Not that it will be anytime soon, but when the time comes to do a upgrade of this cpu/mobo/ram I will really have to think about whether it's actually worth paying the extra for a unlocked cpu.
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It's you.

Most of your statements are wrong. Skylake clocks better than Haswell (4.6Ghz minimum, 4.7 is very common). Most 7700k's will be 4.9Ghz/5.0Ghz stable.

Clock speed does still matter in many games.

K series CPU's aren't much more expensive than the non K versions. They have much higher stock speeds and consequently have much higher resale value. Hence all the news that the K series are selling extremely well for Intel over the last year or two. Literally no reason to buy the non K version, it has much worse perf/$.
 
Dave2150 said:
It's you.

Most of your statements are wrong. Skylake clocks better than Haswell (4.6Ghz minimum, 4.7 is very common). Most 7700k's will be 4.9Ghz/5.0Ghz stable.

Clock speed does still matter in many games.

K series CPU's aren't much more expensive than the non K versions. They have much higher stock speeds and consequently have much higher resale value. Hence all the news that the K series are selling extremely well for Intel over the last year or two. Literally no reason to buy the non K version, it has much worse perf/$.
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Most of the reviews i have seen seem to average about 4.8Ghz at over 1.4v and run incredibly hot, my Devils Canyon runs 4.7Ghz @ 1.32v on a 120mm AIO cooler easy.

Some do get higher but its looking like KabyLake is maybe 200Mhz better than SkyLake which is 300Mhz worse than Devils Canyon which is 200Mhz worse than Sandy Bridge.
 
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