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shankly1985 said:
It's not VEGA 64 performance though :D It is more like 1080Ti performance.
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The second leak revealed another slide consistent with AMD’s presentation style. The slide reveals a gaming performance comparison against the RTX 2070 where the RX 5700 XT manages to tie the 2070 in most titles but beats it by a large margin in two others.
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2070 performance is more like 1080 or Vega 64 no? The 2080 is closer to the Radeon VII in performance, or the 1080Ti.
 
Journey said:
That's a terrible, terrible, misleading statement.

Also your prices are so far off it is unreal.

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: Team - T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

Total: £561.55

That including a 1TB NVMe m.2 SSD, add in £50 for Windows/Keyboard/Mouse, and your whole system is just over £600, and if you want to do 1440P gaming add £200 for the 5700XT or 2060 Super.
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I stand corrected sir. Out of interest is that OCUK pricing?
 
subbytna said:

Oh no I get your point too, you put it well.

To play modern games on a PC, I mean modern demanding games, not CSGO or the like

Windows OS
Mouse
Keyboard
CPU
RAM
MOBO
Case​

GPU​

PSU​

SSD/HD​

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I'll use ball park figures, nothing looked up, just a "rough" estimate​

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Windows OS - £25​

Mouse - £10​

Keyboard - £10​

CPU - Quad cores are starting to show their age but we'll run with a quadcore from AMD - 1400CPU - £130​

RAM - 8gig £40​

MOBO - some B450 board - perhaps £85​

Case - £25​

GPU - RX560 - about £125​

PSU - £40​

SSD/HD - for a 256 to fit games and OS - £30​

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That's over £500 easy. Yes you could go for a APU from AMD but you'd need faster RAM and APU's can just about play 1080p MODERN GAMES remember, at low settings. Console you can get for less than £500 now.​

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I remember building a HIGH END setup, at the time, with a 4870 GPU and a q9550 core2quad, for around 650. Even with inflation, you can't really build a high end pc now for less than 800-1000 to be able to comfortably play at 1080p modern games at medium settings.​
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For 1080p gaming to match a PS4 Pro you could manage:

Ryzen 1200 -£50
RX 570 - £100
Cheapest B450 - £50 - or a 320 for £30
PSU - £50
Windows OS - £0 - just don't activate it
Case - £20
8gb DDR4 - £30
1tb HDD - £30
Mouse/keyboard - £10

Total - £320-£340

Want a 1440p or high FPS experience match a PS5

Ryzen 2600 - £120
Vega 56 - £230 (can be had right now)
Cheapest B450 - £50
PSU - £70
Windows OS - £0 - just don't activate it
Case £20
16gb DDR4 - £60
Mouse/keyboard - £10
SSD 480 - £48

Total - £588
 
Hades said:
Hexus are reporting rumours of AMD cutting Navi prices.

  • RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary: was $499, NOW $449
  • RX 5700 XT: was $449, NOW $399
  • RX 5700: was $379, NOW $349
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Price cut will help. But still to expensive for 2019 GPU's imo. Obviously both AMD and Nvidia are to blame for this, not just AMD. Price for performance should be a lot better in this segment.
 
CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-...hz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-3af-am.html - £129
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asrock-b450m-pro4-socket-am4-ddr4-matx-motherboard-mb-16c-ak.html - £71
Memory: Team - T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory- https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...al-channel-kit-grey-tlgd416g30-my-087-tg.html - £65
Storage: Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cruc...ata-pcie-m.2-solid-state-drive-hd-06f-cr.html - £120 - only one I could find crucial 1tb m.2 on ocuk
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/powe...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-18l-pc.html - £170
Case: Fractal Design - Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case - Doesn't appear on OCUK site - I went for a cheap micro case here - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aerocool-cs-100-advance-micro-atx-case-black-ca-20r-ae.html - £25
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seas...0w-80-plus-bronze-power-supply-ca-051-ss.html - £73



Your Total: £561.55 -

That including a 1TB NVMe m.2 SSD, add in £50 for Windows/Keyboard/Mouse, and your whole system is just over £600, and if you want to do 1440P gaming add £200 for the 5700XT or 2060 Super.


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The above total(me looking in OCUK) £653 excluding windows and delivery charge. Add in the £50 for Windows, mouse and keyboard that you suggested as we're into £703. Add in £15 for delivery and you're north of £720.
 
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