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Yeah it can dehumidify / fix air quality. It's essentially a giant plastic bag inside lol....so I still try and open the doors every now and then to refresh the air
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I want to do one but a) It got too late in the year last year, this is a summer project for sure. And b) I don't do anything fast
So I'd be very lucky to start and finish it within one season without a good amount of prep. Mostly planning to steal the ideas from dlockers and Buffman's threads!Cost wise I think mines nearer £13+K and I haven't even got it finishedAll finished mate. Well, bar skirting board, which arrives today. And guttering which I've bloody forgotten again. Once the guttering is fitted I can final fix the outdoor AC unit (currently just freestanding).
Total cost was £14528 but that includes the TV/Sonos/Computer Desk (£2.5k). Also £3k of that was the bifolds. So roughly £9k for the super structure (as doors are quite a personal choice).
Big items were...
* Wood (whatever is left over once you subtract all the other bits)
* EPDM (~800)
* Doors (3k)
* Floor (600)
* Cladding (1k)
* Plasterer (700)
* WiFi/Smart Lights (400)
* AC Unit (700)
. Ive way over ordered on timber mind you and tend to go with the " more price = better. I think i can use all the treated timber for decking supports on the outside. Reckon that seems sound? I'll get a couple pics of mine later. I spent £1500 getting sparky to fit 10mm armoured cable down the house and also armoured ethernet, he's done a neat job and saved me a lot of time.
I think i might get mine fully plasterboarded inside and not bother getting it skimmed whilst it's a workshop, and if I want to change that in future it's easy. It's not high on my to do list tho.
Hope you're enjoying kiddo #2 @dlockers , I struggle with tiredness with #1!
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Hah to be fair, I stumbled on this epic merchant who only deals via WhatsApp lol. Got all my insulation from him for the house too. It is as good as cost from what I can tell. I accidently ordered double OSB and sold it at the cost I paid for it within 5 mins of listing it on Marketplace, for example. Some bits I did have to get from Merchants Market or w/e it is called. I also frigged trade membership wherever I could (Wickes, Merchants Market, Cladding).Cost wise I think mines nearer £13+K and I haven't even got it finished
I'll get a couple pics of mine later. I spent £1500 getting sparky to fit 10mm armoured cable down the house and also armoured ethernet, he's done a neat job and saved me a lot of time.
I think i might get mine fully plasterboarded inside and not bother getting it skimmed whilst it's a workshop, and if I want to change that in future it's easy. It's not high on my to do list tho.
Hope you're enjoying kiddo #2 @dlockers , I struggle with tiredness with #1!
I also didn't pay a sparky £1500!
Second one is great thanks; it's the usual pain and headache coupled with the "are they going to be ill/cough/cold/fever" as that's what really makes it tough vs. just being very hard
Hah to be fair, I stumbled on this epic merchant who only deals via WhatsApp lol. Got all my insulation from him for the house too. It is as good as cost from what I can tell. I accidently ordered double OSB and sold it at the cost I paid for it within 5 mins of listing it on Marketplace, for example. Some bits I did have to get from Merchants Market or w/e it is called. I also frigged trade membership wherever I could (Wickes, Merchants Market, Cladding).
I also didn't pay a sparky £1500!
Second one is great thanks; it's the usual pain and headache coupled with the "are they going to be ill/cough/cold/fever" as that's what really makes it tough vs. just being very hard
Do you live in the new shed rather than the old living room?
I'll post it next time I update my budget sheet..... Let's not count my old circular saw and impact driver that broke so I needed to buy new ones
Materials market (all timber, studwork, sheet materials, Insulation, cement etc) £3,500.00
Bapp - galvanised washers £184.40
direct channel - galvanised nuts and bolts £449.49
Rubber Roof - rubber 4 roofs coventry £858.41
Fascias / Soffits (Plastics hub £449.00
Toolstation (screws, wood glue, joist hangers, fencing pins, stapler Etc) - june 25th £449.00
Breather wrap - tyvek - roofing superstore £147.00
Cladding - BM Steel Midnight order 1 & order 2 £1,961.47
Cladding -Rhino cladding £592.80
Windows - AWM windows £1,709.34
Electrical to TLC electrics (2.5mm cable, 1mm cable, MCBs, downlights £126.47
External downlights £25.00
Labour - Paying nephew to help £1,000.00
Electrician - Fitting electrics and ethernet (And new internal DB, outside socket) £1,500.00
odds and sods visits to toolstation £150.00
cement mixer - screwfix £289.99
Replacement Impact driver £70.00
Tools - Replacement circular saw £200.00
Tools - makta mini pruning chainsaw £170.00
Tools - makita pole chainsaw £450.00
above totals to circa £14.28k - the tools counts for £1.2kish, and £1k of labour to nephew, £1.5k electrics.
Theres a couple reasons that its high:
I have spare plates/rods/ washers (I think its around 8, I thought itd be useful for decking.
I have way too much spare 3x4 (I'll use it for decking but could effectively build an entire additional base/structure).
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For me, tools should be zero unless I decide to buy a proper nail gun/stapler of sort. Screws and impact should suffice though I expect. Labour I expect to be zero but depends on whether the base is concrete and if I hire someone to pump it all in.
The rubber roofs imo are a rip off. I mean I'll get one, but they must be making bank on those. Why so high? Even accounting for shipping it's high no?
How £449?
The rubber roofs imo are a rip off. I mean I'll get one, but they must be making bank on those. Why so high? Even accounting for shipping it's high no?
How £449?
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At £5-11 a hanger I can imagine with floor joists and roof joists that'd be a couple hundred. One at each end, too.
Given the amount people are spending on these, surely a SIPS shell is ultimately quicker and maybe even slightly cheaper. https://www.simplysips.co.uk/product-category/kits/
I realise 60 quid of it is bags for garden waste moving so could ignore that.
I believe nails are cheaper than screws also. Would be cheaper to buy and sell a nail gun and also save loads of time. If I could go back I'd do that.
My rubber roof is 1.5mm thick (thicker version) as figured it'd be better as it's sited under a tree.
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For me would be a challenge getting it into garden, no side access. But overall agree! Looks good. Only q mark id have is if the insulation is any good,and how you're meant to route cabling etc.
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I just had a good read of that, they claim the 122mm panels are U value of 0.22W/m²K. That is suspiciously identical to the U value of 100mm PIR...
You'd just need to add the cladding, windows, base etc costs then. Im not averse to the alternative options, might fit better for a lot of others.
For example if mine weren't so near so many trees I'd probably say a concrete base seems a better idea.
They may be taking some poetic licence as I cant find there actual data sheet for the panels, but 100mm HD EPS is 0.031W/m2k, add the 11mm OSB 3 each sheet and it drops slightly. Its still pretty decent for a garden room. Not quite PIR level, but if they were PIR SIPS then I'd guess the price would be significantly higher.
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I think you're spot on, yes. It's 97mm foam plus two OSB sheets. And to be fair, cheap AND rapid assembly is a nice Venn diagram overlap, unless you really really need house-level insulation