2,000 migrants tried to enter channel tunnel last night!

SciNeT · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:21

Dark_Injection said:
No i could happily go through this whole thread and point out clear areas of racism. It may be not directed at a specific person, but there are racist slurs and ideolgies being used.

Haha! That would be the race card!

RoboCod · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:22

bitslice said:
Anyone foolish enough to go to the wrong part of Africa or the Middle East will get a bullet for real, as opposed to some grumbling in the UK.
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I'm in the wrong part of the ME, and I haven't gotten a bullet. Do I get a cookie?

Vidar · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:29

RoboCod said:
I'm in the wrong part of the ME, and I haven't gotten a bullet. Do I get a cookie?

You should, however if you're ever in my neck of the woods you probably deserve a pint!

MrMarvelous · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:33

arknor said:
Nothing stops them claiming asylum though...

Just a bunch of free loading scum bags who see the UK as a soft touch and people like you are soft enough to welcome them

That's because it is and it's been proven time and time again that we're a bunch of pussies and cower when the word 'racist' is used. It's a joke that these people are specifically targeting the U.K, wonder why they don't try for asylum in say France or German.

Because they're skilless immigrants that want to freeload, that's why.

Danthus · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:33

Vidar said:
What absolute pigswill I don't think anyone is actually saying we should let everyone in, the point being made is that these people who are genuinely in need and have been desperate enough to risk their lives to gain entry to the UK should be helped and not persecuted because they're desperate enough to break the law. We should help them in anyway we can and with a few tweaks to governmental policy and taxing companies who can afford it, slightly more well guess what it could all be paid for.

Where would you put them all?

arknor · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:35

OldCoals said:
Where would you put them all?

He would force them upon people paying the bedroom tax or displace British citizens to accommodate them

Vidar · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:38

OldCoals said:
Where would you put them all?

That's a damn good question and one that would be more easily answered if the tories hadn't just cancelled a shed load of social housing to be built. With an increase in revenue from things like corporation tax or the idea of robin hood tax where financial assets like stocks and shares receive a small tax there would be more than enough revenue to house people.

Rosbif · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:38

Hmm, thousands of young men, not educated to western standards, unable to speak English, culturally different and highly religious.

Yeah, let them in, what could possibly go wrong?

Vidar · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:39

arknor said:
He would force them upon people paying the bedroom tax or displace British citizens to accommodate them

Jeez as far as points go you couldn't spot the sea if you where standing on the beach....

StriderX · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:39

Vidar said:
That's a damn good question and one that would be more easily answered if the tories hadn't just cancelled a shed load of social housing to be built. With an increase in revenue from things like corporation tax or the idea of robin hood tax where financial assets like stocks and shares receive a small tax there would be more than enough revenue to house people.

Please stop reiterating the corporation tax crap, seriously its NOT happening.

antijoke · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:41

Vidar said:
That's a damn good question and one that would be more easily answered if the tories hadn't just cancelled a shed load of social housing to be built. With an increase in revenue from things like corporation tax or the idea of robin hood tax where financial assets like stocks and shares receive a small tax there would be more than enough revenue to house people.

So you would give them social housing when our government have just removed housing benefit for young people? And also there's an affordable housing problem here.

Great plan to **** off the UK population.

Danthus · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:42

Vidar said:
That's a damn good question and one that would be more easily answered if the tories hadn't just cancelled a shed load of social housing to be built. With an increase in revenue from things like corporation tax or the idea of robin hood tax where financial assets like stocks and shares receive a small tax there would be more than enough revenue to house people.

There is a lack of social housing, private rents are as high as they have ever been.

So where would you put them all?

bitslice · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:43

Vidar said:
but what's your point exactly

That you were criticising the violent words of someone here while ignoring that this same group would kill any of us in the same situation. You are basically saying murderers are just misunderstood.

The fact is our half baked attempts at stabilizing their country didn't have the backing or planning to succeed and so we ended up with a massive mess we've all but abandoned as long as we keep getting what we want.

We spent three trillion trying to stabilise that poohole, it failed because it is impossible to help people who don't care about anyone but themselves.
And what oil? we gained nothing from that exercise.

Okay so they have different religious beliefs and need a different system to us, doesn't mean just because it doesn't match what we have exactly doesn't mean it isn't a democratic society.

Err what?
Islam is a totalitarian theocratic ideology, it has sod all to do with democracy

Read a book or something...

And our own people haven't been corrupt for hundreds of years?

Are you seriously comparing the corruption in our society with theirs?
I'd stay out of Africa if I were you, such nativity might get you shot.

Been reading the daily fail again have we?

a little education for you, it completely backs up my points
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/video/this-is-what-winning-looks-like-part-1

Again if they had resources and education comparable to our own most of this wouldn't have happened. I won't comment on the child abuse because that has no baring on race or religion

You think you can change their culture with a few resources and a bit of education? Dear God... :eek:

And raping boys is part of their culture. Here, have a liberal link to read
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/12/dancing-boys-afghanistan

As for running away from IS, hmmmm an ill equipped, ill trained people

No it is a difference in culture, you can't make an army out of people who are just there for a job, they need some loyalty to the country they are fighting for. Compare Israel with all the Arab countries that surround it.

See now you're wrong again,

What do you mean again? There is nothing in your post that resembles reality

Extremism is completely at odd with every single western culture but that could be said about any group of religious extremists whether they be Muslim by creed or not. Most religions are at odds with western culture,

Who mentioned extremism? the normal culture of muslims is at odds with the west, it has nothing to do with extremism.
It is isolationist, misogynistic, permanently offended, repeatedly corrupt, morally suspect and pathologically insular.
The fact that every muslim community in the world spawns psychotic jihadists at regular intervals is just the freaking icing on the cake.

so thanks for defeating your own point there.

Please educate yourself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

and no, all Africans don't look the same.

I actually can't be bothered to answer you anymore..... your completely moronic view point....

And here we have the last bastion of the liberal who is unable to justify why they want to dictate what everyone else must do - name calling. This thread has been a pretty good example.

Boycey0211 · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:44

Again I posted offical stats up earlier that germany takes about 5 times the number of asylum seekers than we do, every country on the route from greece to here takes more than we do so can people stop assuming that every single one is headed here?

Just because 2 posters bury there head in the sand and refuse to read replies properly doesnt mean everyone has to do it

Vidar · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:46

anticonscience said:
So you would give them social housing when our government have just removed housing benefit for young people? And also there's an affordable housing problem here.

Great plan to **** off the UK population.

OldCoals said:
There is a lack of social housing, private rents are as high as they have ever been.

So where would you put them all?

By using the generated income from these new taxes on companies etc, which I might add would still be the lowest rates in the G7, to build lots of new social housing and to fund housing benefit for all of those in need including our own young people. Come on guys use your minds...

Oh and just to add there would be so much revenue generated by this, the cost of all the needed housing benefit and social housing would barely scratch the surface of it.... leaving massive amounts of funds for many other things like education and the NHS.

Danthus · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:46

Boycey0211 said:
Again I posted offical stats up earlier that germany takes about 5 times the number of asylum seekers than we do, every country on the route from greece to here takes more than we do so can people stop assuming that every single one is headed here?

Just because 2 posters bury there head in the sand and refuse to read replies properly doesnt mean everyone has to do it

Given that so many countries can offer a safe haven before they ever get near the UK there really shouldn't be any needing to come here.

Danthus · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:47

Vidar said:
By using the generated income from these new taxes on companies etc, which I might add would still be the lowest rates in the G7, to build lots of new social housing and to fund housing benefit for all of those in need including our own young people. Come on guys use your minds...

So given the waiting lists for social housing in this country, does these people go straight to the top of the list?

antijoke · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:51

Vidar said:
By using the generated income from these new taxes on companies etc, which I might add would still be the lowest rates in the G7, to build lots of new social housing and to fund housing benefit for all of those in need including our own young people. Come on guys use your minds...

Oh and just to add there would be so much revenue generated by this, the cost of all the needed housing benefit and social housing would barely scratch the surface of it.... leaving massive amounts of funds for many other things like education and the NHS.

That's just pure ideology again, never going to happen in the real world, and what of the existing social housing list?

These immigrants jump to the top?

chief barker · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:51

Vidar said:
By using the generated income from these new taxes on companies etc, which I might add would still be the lowest rates in the G7, to build lots of new social housing and to fund housing benefit for all of those in need including our own young people. Come on guys use your minds...

OK so where are you going to build all the new social housing for all the immigrants?

I'm sorry to say this but you're an idiot or you have nothing better to do than troll?

Edit; yes a personal attack.

bitslice · 2 Aug 2015 at 19:59

chief barker said:
OK so where are you going to build all the new social housing for all the immigrants?

I'm not sure they get any new housing.
What seems to happen is that all the white people are now fleeing from the cities into new commuter villages built on greenbelt, while the muslims flood into the slum areas of cities and live 20 to a house.

This compounds the problems with housing stock as these homes are no longer cared for and the area crumbles. With no white people left the value of the housing plummets too, and the community starts to lose all its white amenities like cinemas, pubs and nightclubs.

It is inevitable really, as soon as multiculturalism is forced upon a community, all the white people self segregate and move out. Clearly something about the countryside offends muslims because they stay clear and prefer city ghettos.

I think the housing companies recognise this and almost never build in cities if there is a greenfield site to build on, they'll get a better return from white families desperate to get away from multicultural schools. You could literally build a shed in a white area now and sell it in a weekend.

My village has effectively has had three new villages built up around it in the last decade, it is probably 99% white.
The nearest city is just a ghetto now.

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