2005 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix

Flibster · 16 Mar 2005 at 11:09

Flibster · 16 Mar 2005 at 11:10

2004 Malaysian Grand Prix Results:

Flibster · 16 Mar 2005 at 11:27

Current Standings

2005 Drivers Championship.

Code:

[b]Pos	Driver			Nationality	Team			Points[/b]
1	Giancarlo Fisichella 	Italian		Renault 		10 
2 	Rubens Barrichello 	Brazilian 	Ferrari 		8 
3 	Fernando Alonso 	Spanish 	Renault 		6 
4 	David Coulthard 	British 	Red Bull Racing 	5 
5	Mark Webber		Australian	Williams-BMW		4 
6 	Juan Pablo Montoya	Colombian	McLaren-Mercedes	3 
7	Christian Klien		Austrian	Red Bull Racing		2 
8 	Kimi Räikkönen		Finnish		McLaren-Mercedes	1

2005 Constructors Championship.

Code:

[b]Pos	Constructor 		Points[/b]
1	Renault			16  
2	Ferrari			8  
3	Red Bull Racing		7  
4	Williams-BMW		4  
4=	McLaren-Mercedes	4

Flibster · 16 Mar 2005 at 11:28

See..told you there was new pictures.

Simon/~Flibster

fRostiE · 16 Mar 2005 at 11:33

20th it is then

Deleted member 11679 · 16 Mar 2005 at 12:44

What time does the race normally start for this one? I seem to remember about 5 - 6AM in the morning last year...

Flibster · 16 Mar 2005 at 13:00

TomWilko said:
What time does the race normally start for this one? I seem to remember about 5 - 6AM in the morning last year...

Malaysian Grand Prix on ITV1 and ITV2

Qualifying 1 - Sat 19 March 1320-1505 (ITV1)

Live race - Sun 20 March 0640-0900 (ITV1)
Race rpt - Sun 20 March 1500-1730 (ITV1)

Highlights - Mon 21 March 0015-0115 (ITV1)
Highlights - Mon 21 March 0030-0120 (ITV2)

Pretty sure the race starts at 7am. Nice that the Qualifying is being shown 7 hours after it happens... :mad:

Bloody ITV.

Simon/~FLibster

AndrewP · 16 Mar 2005 at 13:02

Flibster said:
Nice that the Qualifying is being shown 7 hours after it happens...

And they're not even showing half of it :rolleyes:

- just highlights of the second session, I imagine.

Sone · 16 Mar 2005 at 13:06

does ferraris new car appear this race?

Flibster · 16 Mar 2005 at 13:16

AndrewP said:
And they're not even showing half of it - just highlights of the second session, I imagine.

Eh? 1h 45mins of qualifying? That'll be the whole of Q1 - we'll only get highlights of Q2 with the race sunday morning.

Sone said:
does ferraris new car appear this race?

Doubtfull.

Michael Schumacher could use it this race - unlikely though. More likely at the 4th race it'll appear in his mitts.

Rubens could get the new car as early as next race. As he needs to use his engine for 2 races..he finished in Aus so he has to use the engine this weekend and the engines are not swapable.

Simon/~Flibster

AndrewP · 16 Mar 2005 at 15:11

Flibster said:
Eh? 1h 45mins of qualifying? That'll be the whole of Q1 - we'll only get highlights of Q2 with the race sunday morning.

I meant they were only showing Q1 properly and some highlights of Q2, which worked last time as the first session decided the whole qualifying but I can't imagine it having the same effect in this race - most of the drama will be in the second session, I reckon.

Flibster · 16 Mar 2005 at 19:55

First bit of interesting news from this GP.

FIA close engine loophole

As of this weekend’s Malaysian Grand Prix, the Formula One teams will have to justify the reasons for a car’s retirement if they wish to use a fresh engine for the following race.

The clarification of the ‘one engine-two weekend’ rule has been made by the FIA after BAR retired both cars on the final lap in Melbourne to take advantage of a regulation loophole allowing any driver not finishing a race to use a new V10 at the next event, even if their previous engine was still race worthy.

“A distinction will now be made between failing to finish and choosing not to finish, the former is normally accidental or beyond the control of the driver while the latter is not,” said the FIA in a statement.

“In order to ensure the purpose of the regulation is fully respected, and unless the reason is completely clear, in future we will require the team of any driver who fails to finish the first of two races to explain the circumstances surrounding the retirement to the Stewards of the meeting.”

Should the stewards decide a retirement was unwarranted, the driver may have to start the following event with the same engine, or accept the normal ten-spot grid penalty if a new one is fitted.

Good good. However this is open to interpretation still....sadly..

Simon/~Flibster

pinkaardvark · 16 Mar 2005 at 20:04

Flibster said:
First bit of interesting news from this GP.

Good good. However this is open to interpretation still....sadly..

Simon/~Flibster

aye and I doubt it'd be hard for a driver to purposefully detonate his engine assuming the required software protection is removed.

Flibster · 16 Mar 2005 at 20:08

pinkaardvark said:
aye and I doubt it'd be hard for a driver to purposefully detonate his engine assuming the required software protection is removed.

They can adjust the rev limiter from inside the car - wind it up to 20k and ka-boom!

Think the engines this year are able to withstand around 19250-19500rpm for short amounts of time. Pretty sure the Mercades can do 19000rpm reasonably reliabily - but I wouldn't be surprised if they limit them to 18750rpm to increase lifespan.

Apparently most of the engines are the same power as they were last year if not higher now. :eek:

Thats impressive.

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 17 Mar 2005 at 23:54

Bumping this thread to remind me to update it in the morning.

Oooh...Also Michael Schumacher has kept last races engine so he will probably be using the 2005 car in Bahrain on 1-3/4/2005.

Simon/~Flibster

Sharknose · 18 Mar 2005 at 01:34

This whole engine rule thing is stupid, and as you have pointed out.... still open to interpretation.

Bahrain is race 3 isn't Flibster????

Flibster · 18 Mar 2005 at 08:14

Sharknose said:
This whole engine rule thing is stupid, and as you have pointed out.... still open to interpretation.

Bahrain is race 3 isn't Flibster????

Yup...thats the next one.

As the life of engines goes up - so does the cost as the testing of them is longer and more difficult to do..also...with the change to 2.4l V8's next year * I think* thats an entirely new engine so the cost will go up again. You can't just chop 2 cylinders of the V10's

FIA = Clueless.

Now converting the txt file I've been sent to meaningfull sensible results from friday free practice.

Simon/~Flibster

Flibster · 18 Mar 2005 at 09:06

Friday Free Practice 1.

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	38	Ricardo Zonta		Toyota			1:34.092
2	35	Pedro de la Rosa	McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.144
3	37	Vitantonio Liuzzi	Red Bull Racing		1:35.691
4	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:36.011
5	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		1:36.513
6	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		1:36.551
7	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:36.563
8	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:36.610
9	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:36.963
10	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:36.989
11	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:37.168
12	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:37.338
13	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:37.366
14	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:37.642
15	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:37.843
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:38.416
17	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:39.571
18	39	Robert Doornbos		Jordan-Toyota		1:40.289
19	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:40.375
20	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	1:43.574
21	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:43.691
22	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			No Time
23	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			No Time
24	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			No Time

Sector Times - Free Practice 1

Code:

[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	38	Ricardo Zonta		24.332 
2	1	Michael Schumacher	24.624 
3	35	Pedro de la Rosa	24.651 
4	3	Jenson Button		24.657 
5	12	Felipe Massa		24.665 
6	4	Takuma Sato		24.668 
7	8	Nick Heidfeld		24.758 
8	7	Mark Webber		24.833 
9	14	David Coulthard		24.886 
10	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	24.896 
11	2	Rubens Barrichello	24.900 
12	11	Jacques Villeneuve	24.944 
13	9	Kimi Räikkönen		24.978 
14	15	Christian Klien		25.096 
15	17	Ralf Schumacher		25.120 
16	19	Narain Karthikeyan	25.214 
17	18	Tiago Monteiro		25.286 
18	39	Robert Doornbos		25.514 
19	37	Vitantonio Liuzzi	25.663 
20	20	Patrick Friesacher	25.700 
21	21	Christijan Albers	25.858 
22	16	Jarno Trulli		1032.586 
23	5	Fernando Alonso		1081.836 
24	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	1095.083

Code:

[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	38	Ricardo Zonta		31.296 
2	35	Pedro de la Rosa	31.568 
3	1	Michael Schumacher	32.085 
4	9	Kimi Räikkönen		32.194 
5	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	32.347 
6	3	Jenson Button		32.416 
7	17	Ralf Schumacher		32.473 
8	8	Nick Heidfeld		32.487 
9	7	Mark Webber		32.520 
10	14	David Coulthard		32.551 
11	12	Felipe Massa		32.654 
12	15	Christian Klien		32.742 
13	2	Rubens Barrichello	32.789 
14	4	Takuma Sato		32.921 
15	18	Tiago Monteiro		33.417 
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	33.424 
17	39	Robert Doornbos		33.450 
18	19	Narain Karthikeyan	33.657 
19	37	Vitantonio Liuzzi	33.899 
20	20	Patrick Friesacher	35.046 
21	21	Christijan Albers	35.311 
22	5	Fernando Alonso		38.296 
23	16	Jarno Trulli		38.998 
24	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	39.857

Code:

[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	38	Ricardo Zonta		38.316 
2	35	Pedro de la Rosa	38.925 
3	9	Kimi Räikkönen		39.116 
4	3	Jenson Button		39.181 
5	1	Michael Schumacher	39.302 
6	8	Nick Heidfeld		39.306 
7	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	39.310 
8	17	Ralf Schumacher		39.477 
9	7	Mark Webber		39.620 
10	12	Felipe Massa		39.644 
11	15	Christian Klien		39.654 
12	14	David Coulthard		39.671 
13	4	Takuma Sato		39.777 
14	2	Rubens Barrichello	39.798 
15	11	Jacques Villeneuve	39.839 
16	18	Tiago Monteiro		40.282 
17	37	Vitantonio Liuzzi	40.695 
18	19	Narain Karthikeyan	40.709 
19	39	Robert Doornbos		40.903 
20	20	Patrick Friesacher	42.075 
21	21	Christijan Albers	42.115 
22	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	50.075 
23	16	Jarno Trulli		53.474 
24	5	Fernando Alonso		55.127

Speed Trap - Free Practice 1

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	38	Ricardo Zonta		11:57:37	306.5 
2	1	Michael Schumacher	11:57:33	304.8 
3	20	Patrick Friesacher	11:55:48	302.7 
4	3	Jenson Button		11:57:45	302.6 
5	39	Robert Doornbos		11:02:02	301.9 
6	4	Takuma Sato		11:57:50	301.2 
7	2	Rubens Barrichello	11:55:58	299.8 
8	11	Jacques Villeneuve	12:01:15	298.6 
9	21	Christijan Albers	11:35:04	297.6 
10	12	Felipe Massa		11:55:47	297.5 
11	19	Narain Karthikeyan	11:49:39	296.5 
12	18	Tiago Monteiro		11:54:02	296.5 
13	37	Vitantonio Liuzzi	11:28:25	296.0 
14	8	Nick Heidfeld		12:00:08	295.9 
15	14	David Coulthard		11:55:50	295.8 
16	35	Pedro de la Rosa	12:01:13	295.8 
17	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	11:51:39	295.4 
18	15	Christian Klien		11:57:25	295.4 
19	17	Ralf Schumacher		11:57:41	294.7 
20	7	Mark Webber		11:38:47	294.3 
21	9	Kimi Räikkönen		11:54:00	293.9 
22	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	11:47:43	288.8 
23	16	Jarno Trulli		11:34:55	286.3 
24	5	Fernando Alonso		11:32:38	283.6

Flibster · 18 Mar 2005 at 09:06

Friday Free Practice 2.

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:35.608		
2	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.620		
3	38	Ricardo Zonta		Toyota			1:35.677		
4	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.719		
5	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:35.838		
6	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:35.841		
7	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:35.949		
8	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		1:35.992		
9	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:36.103		
10	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:36.575		
11	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:36.841		
12	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:36.968		
13	35	Pedro de la Rosa	McLaren-Mercedes	1:37.033		
14	4	Takuma Sato		BAR-Honda		1:37.044		
15	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		1:37.067		
16	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:37.270		
17	39	Robert Doornbos		Jordan-Toyota		1:37.878		
18	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:38.121		
19	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:38.855		
20	37	Vitantonio Liuzzi	Red Bull Racing		1:39.349		
21	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:39.755		
22	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	1:40.940		
23	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:41.156		
24	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		No Time

Sector Times - Free Practice 2

Code:

[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	38	Ricardo Zonta		24.237 
2	12	Felipe Massa		24.295 
3	3	Jenson Button		24.453 
4	5	Fernando Alonso		24.622 
5	4	Takuma Sato		24.632 
6	16	Jarno Trulli		24.729 
7	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	24.734 
8	39	Robert Doornbos		24.738 
9	9	Kimi Räikkönen		24.744 
10	14	David Coulthard		24.809 
11	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	24.825 
12	17	Ralf Schumacher		24.850 
13	1	Michael Schumacher	24.859 
14	35	Pedro de la Rosa	24.926 
15	2	Rubens Barrichello	24.940 
16	8	Nick Heidfeld		24.953 
17	15	Christian Klien		24.961 
18	11	Jacques Villeneuve	25.164 
19	19	Narain Karthikeyan	25.240 
20	21	Christijan Albers	25.294 
21	37	Vitantonio Liuzzi	25.349 
22	20	Patrick Friesacher	25.368 
23	18	Tiago Monteiro		25.516 
24	7	Mark Webber		27.076

Code:

[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	38	Ricardo Zonta		31.587 
2	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	31.796 
3	2	Rubens Barrichello	31.797 
4	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	31.840 
5	9	Kimi Räikkönen		31.928 
6	17	Ralf Schumacher		31.956 
7	5	Fernando Alonso		32.129 
8	3	Jenson Button		32.174 
9	14	David Coulthard		32.288 
10	16	Jarno Trulli		32.308 
11	8	Nick Heidfeld		32.329 
12	12	Felipe Massa		32.429 
13	1	Michael Schumacher	32.459 
14	15	Christian Klien		32.482 
15	35	Pedro de la Rosa	32.497 
16	4	Takuma Sato		32.570 
17	39	Robert Doornbos		32.629 
18	11	Jacques Villeneuve	32.884 
19	19	Narain Karthikeyan	33.245 
20	37	Vitantonio Liuzzi	33.265 
21	18	Tiago Monteiro		33.362 
22	7	Mark Webber		33.395 
23	21	Christijan Albers	33.957 
24	20	Patrick Friesacher	34.366

Code:

[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	3	Jenson Button		38.735 
2	12	Felipe Massa		38.884 
3	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	38.977 
4	17	Ralf Schumacher		39.032 
5	9	Kimi Räikkönen		39.047 
6	38	Ricardo Zonta		39.054 
7	2	Rubens Barrichello	39.212 
8	5	Fernando Alonso		39.231 
9	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	39.267 
10	16	Jarno Trulli		39.303 
11	14	David Coulthard		39.390 
12	8	Nick Heidfeld		39.450 
13	35	Pedro de la Rosa	39.461 
14	15	Christian Klien		39.466 
15	1	Michael Schumacher	39.632 
16	4	Takuma Sato		39.651 
17	11	Jacques Villeneuve	39.817 
18	39	Robert Doornbos		40.016 
19	37	Vitantonio Liuzzi	40.256 
20	19	Narain Karthikeyan	40.266 
21	18	Tiago Monteiro		40.877 
22	20	Patrick Friesacher	41.206 
23	21	Christijan Albers	41.427 
24	7	Mark Webber		56.294

Speed Trap - Free Practice 2

Code:

[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	3	Jenson Button		14:10:24	307.5 
2	39	Robert Doornbos		14:59:59	306.9 
3	5	Fernando Alonso		14:54:37	305.6 
4	1	Michael Schumacher	14:55:06	305.5 
5	8	Nick Heidfeld		14:58:13	304.3 
6	4	Takuma Sato		14:54:44	303.8 
7	19	Narain Karthikeyan	14:52:08	302.7 
8	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	14:57:44	302.4 
9	20	Patrick Friesacher	14:48:38	302.2 
10	2	Rubens Barrichello	14:47:30	302.1 
11	38	Ricardo Zonta		14:52:29	302.0 
12	12	Felipe Massa		14:07:21	300.8 
13	35	Pedro de la Rosa	14:06:46	300.6 
14	18	Tiago Monteiro		14:12:22	300.4 
15	37	Vitantonio Liuzzi	14:05:52	300.3 
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	14:30:22	299.9 
17	15	Christian Klien		14:14:30	298.9 
18	21	Christijan Albers	14:28:31	298.9 
19	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	14:48:37	298.3 
20	9	Kimi Räikkönen		14:57:41	297.5 
21	17	Ralf Schumacher		14:54:34	296.2 
22	16	Jarno Trulli		14:15:37	296.1 
23	14	David Coulthard		14:55:11	296.1 
24	7	Mark Webber		14:25:07	295.1

AndrewP · 18 Mar 2005 at 09:25

Stat-tastic!

Cheers.

The field's times are so mixed up I can't think of any conclusions I can draw from those results.

Are you going to post Q1 times before that session is shown at lunchtime tomorrow?

2005 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix

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