2005 Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix

AndrewP said:
Are you going to post Q1 times before that session is shown at lunchtime tomorrow?

Yup - But I will do them as hidden text again.

What surprises me - in the Morning session Renault didn't leave the pits. Are they that confident or just trying to preserve the engines..I wonder...

Simon/~Flibster
 
Flibster said:
Bumping this thread to remind me to update it in the morning.

Oooh...Also Michael Schumacher has kept last races engine so he will probably be using the 2005 car in Bahrain on 1-3/4/2005.

Simon/~Flibster

That raises an interesting question - what would happen if they wanted to bring in the new car at an even numbered race? Does the current engine fit in the F2005? Would they have to take a penalty to run the new chassis with the correct engine?

Here's hoping.....

What surprises me - in the Morning session Renault didn't leave the pits. Are they that confident or just trying to preserve the engines..I wonder...

Temperature went up to 33 degrees, lots of folk preserving engines - only half the field got into double figures of laps in the morning session.
 
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rpstewart said:
That raises an interesting question - what would happen if they wanted to bring in the new car at an even numbered race? Does the current engine fit in the F2005? Would they have to take a penalty to run the new chassis with the correct engine?

Here's hoping.....

The current engine does not fit the new chassis - that has already been pretty much confirmed by them - they either need to take the 10 place drop or introduce the car after the engine's 2 races

Simon/~Flibster
 
Do Ferrari want to cut costs in F1 - it seems now.


Pinched from www.ITV-f1.com as usual..
TESTING ROW RUMBLES ON
Last Updated: Friday, 18, March, 2005, 16:10


Ferrari's rivals have once again called on the world champion team to rein back its testing commitments.

Nine of Formula 1's teams have committed to an agreement which limits them to 30 days testing during the season.

But Ferrari refuses to fall in line.

The teams fear that the ongoing dispute could lead to a potential cost war that would drag the sport through another period of spiralling costs.

"Ferrari's actions not only potentially destabilise Formula 1 and increase costs but also provide Ferrari with an unequal advantage over all other teams," a statement attributed to the teams read.

"Inevitably, such actions on the part of Ferrari can only increase costs within Formula 1 and undermine the principle of a 'level playing field' in the sport.

"The nine teams are requesting that Ferrari now reconsiders its position and acts in a responsible manner to support this valuable cost-saving initiative."

Ferrari team principal Jean Todt responded by saying that it is the sport's governing body the FIA, and not the teams, that should set limits on testing.

"We believe it is not the job of the teams to decide on the rules, even if they can make suggestions, leaving the sporting authority to establish the rules of the game," he said.

"We are open to discuss any proposals that can lead to an effective reduction in costs, above all for those teams that do not reap any benefit from the current situation."

Ferrari is conducting a private test at Mugello this weekend to develop its new F2005.

"Ferrari is the only team moving Bridgestone's tyre development forward, which is also of benefit to the other two teams (Jordan and Minardi) who have an agreement with the Japanese supplier," added Todt.

The Frenchman also revealed that he did not believe Ferrari's current testing programme, which he says is being run at a cost of two million Euros less than 2004, gave it an advantage over its rivals.

"If we analyse the testing that has taken place in the first months of 2005," he explained, "it can be seen that Bridgestone runners did a quarter of the total mileage achieved by those teams who are with the other tyre supplier.

"This situation can hardly be seen as advantageous to us."

"When the previous testing agreement was coming to an end, we tried to find a new compromise, which took the reality of the current situation into account.

"Unfortunately this did not prove possible and therefore we felt that no testing guidelines were in place anymore and we intend to continue on that premise."

Simon/~Flibster
 
ooooh...hello.

Sato is not taking part in todays 1st practice session and has been replaced with Anthony Davidson...

No reason has been given as of yet.

Simon/~Flibster
 
Now confirmed. Sato has a fever and will not be taking any further part in this wekeends grand prix.

Now we get to see how good Davidson really is.

Simon/~Flibster
 
Weather update.

Nasty..
Track temp is between 30 and 32°C
Air temp is 29°C
It's dry..thankfully
Windspeed and direction is fluctuating like mad...one min it's along the pit straight, then it's at 90° to it...Would hate to drive in that.
Windspeed is going between 1 and 5m/s

Simon/~Flibster
 
Saturday Free Practice 1.
Code:
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:34.715		
2	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:34.883		
3	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:34.930		
4	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.054		
5	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:35.573		
6	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:35.645		
7	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:35.850		
8	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		1:36.162		
9	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		1:36.434		
10	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:36.465		
11	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:36.888		
12	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:36.903		
13	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:36.987		
14	4	Anthony Davidson	BAR-Honda		1:37.049		
15	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:37.204		
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:37.850		
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:38.444		
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:39.349		
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	1:41.398		
20	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:42.023

Sector Times - Free Practice 1

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[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	9	Kimi Räikkönen		24.416 
2	5	Fernando Alonso		24.448 
3	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	24.481 
4	1	Michael Schumacher	24.531 
5	17	Ralf Schumacher		24.618 
6	16	Jarno Trulli		24.647 
7	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	24.661 
8	8	Nick Heidfeld		24.675 
9	3	Jenson Button		24.758 
10	7	Mark Webber		24.830 
11	2	Rubens Barrichello	24.831 
12	12	Felipe Massa		24.836 
13	14	David Coulthard		24.847 
14	4	Anthony Davidson	24.938 
15	15	Christian Klien		25.111 
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	25.146 
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	25.170 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		25.356 
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	25.605 
20	21	Christijan Albers	25.728

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[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	1	Michael Schumacher	31.440 
2	5	Fernando Alonso		31.582 
3	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	31.726 
4	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	31.785 
5	17	Ralf Schumacher		31.846 
6	9	Kimi Räikkönen		31.921 
7	16	Jarno Trulli		32.012 
8	3	Jenson Button		32.103 
9	14	David Coulthard		32.281 
10	7	Mark Webber		32.285 
11	4	Anthony Davidson	32.323 
12	15	Christian Klien		32.442 
13	8	Nick Heidfeld		32.559 
14	2	Rubens Barrichello	32.575 
15	12	Felipe Massa		32.664 
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	32.827 
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	33.216 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		33.318 
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	34.297 
20	21	Christijan Albers	34.446

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[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		38.555 
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	38.606 
3	1	Michael Schumacher	38.657 
4	9	Kimi Räikkönen		38.713 
5	16	Jarno Trulli		38.856 
6	8	Nick Heidfeld		38.952 
7	17	Ralf Schumacher		38.964 
8	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	39.024 
9	3	Jenson Button		39.251 
10	7	Mark Webber		39.260 
11	2	Rubens Barrichello	39.321 
12	12	Felipe Massa		39.446 
13	15	Christian Klien		39.527 
14	4	Anthony Davidson	39.573 
15	14	David Coulthard		39.601 
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	39.709 
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	40.001 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		40.420 
19	21	Christijan Albers	41.219 
20	20	Patrick Friesacher	41.324

Speed Trap

Code:
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	1	Michael Schumacher	9:31:03		307.5 
2	5	Fernando Alonso		9:41:37		307.4 
3	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	9:42:26		307.1 
4	19	Narain Karthikeyan	9:42:48		303.2 
5	4	Anthony Davidson	9:39:49		302.0 
6	8	Nick Heidfeld		9:41:25		301.5 
7	9	Kimi Räikkönen		9:44:20		301.0 
8	2	Rubens Barrichello	9:26:40		300.8 
9	3	Jenson Button		9:40:11		300.7 
10	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	9:41:02		300.7 
11	17	Ralf Schumacher		9:41:09		300.0 
12	18	Tiago Monteiro		9:40:52		300.0 
13	12	Felipe Massa		9:44:33		299.5 
14	11	Jacques Villeneuve	9:42:20		299.0 
15	20	Patrick Friesacher	9:40:27		298.0 
16	21	Christijan Albers	9:42:40		298.0 
17	16	Jarno Trulli		9:43:39		297.9 
18	15	Christian Klien		9:39:08		297.2 
19	14	David Coulthard		9:41:20		296.3 
20	7	Mark Webber		9:38:21		292.6
 
Saturday Free Practice 2.
Code:
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:32.832		
2	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:32.870		
3	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:32.880		
4	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:32.951		
5	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:33.092		
6	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:33.194		
7	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:33.349		
8	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		1:33.468		
9	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:33.517		
10	4	Anthony Davidson	BAR-Honda		1:33.580		
11	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:33.689		
12	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:33.943		
13	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:34.002		
14	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:34.102		
15	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:35.532		
16	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:37.824		
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:38.126		
18	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:38.673		
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	1:38.974		
20	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda

Sector Times

Code:
[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		24.026 
2	16	Jarno Trulli		24.027 
3	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	24.055 
4	14	David Coulthard		24.082 
5	15	Christian Klien		24.083 
6	17	Ralf Schumacher		24.140 
7	2	Rubens Barrichello	24.175 
8	9	Kimi Räikkönen		24.177 
9	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	24.196 
10	12	Felipe Massa		24.212 
11	4	Anthony Davidson	24.284 
12	8	Nick Heidfeld		24.284 
13	7	Mark Webber		24.292 
14	1	Michael Schumacher	24.357 
15	11	Jacques Villeneuve	24.463 
16	19	Narain Karthikeyan	24.987 
17	21	Christijan Albers	25.005 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		25.064 
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	25.122

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[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	17	Ralf Schumacher		30.721 
2	9	Kimi Räikkönen		30.917 
3	16	Jarno Trulli		30.937 
4	15	Christian Klien		30.950 
5	5	Fernando Alonso		30.979 
6	14	David Coulthard		31.068 
7	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	31.190 
8	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	31.266 
9	4	Anthony Davidson	31.296 
10	2	Rubens Barrichello	31.302 
11	8	Nick Heidfeld		31.317 
12	1	Michael Schumacher	31.343 
13	12	Felipe Massa		31.426 
14	7	Mark Webber		31.645 
15	11	Jacques Villeneuve	32.009 
16	18	Tiago Monteiro		32.736 
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	32.885 
18	20	Patrick Friesacher	33.297 
19	21	Christijan Albers	33.323

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[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	7	Mark Webber		37.580 
2	5	Fernando Alonso		37.823 
3	15	Christian Klien		37.837 
4	8	Nick Heidfeld		37.867 
5	16	Jarno Trulli		37.868 
6	14	David Coulthard		37.942 
7	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	37.949 
8	4	Anthony Davidson	38.000 
9	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	38.009 
10	9	Kimi Räikkönen		38.086 
11	17	Ralf Schumacher		38.090 
12	12	Felipe Massa		38.364 
13	1	Michael Schumacher	38.402 
14	2	Rubens Barrichello	38.466 
15	11	Jacques Villeneuve	38.774 
16	18	Tiago Monteiro		39.779 
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	40.025 
18	21	Christijan Albers	40.345 
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	40.390

Speed Trap

Code:
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		10:44:54	310.6 
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	10:59:17	309.0 
3	1	Michael Schumacher	10:29:06	306.5 
4	16	Jarno Trulli		10:41:21	305.6 
5	2	Rubens Barrichello	10:44:05	305.4 
6	15	Christian Klien		10:45:56	305.2 
7	8	Nick Heidfeld		11:00:14	304.5 
8	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	10:56:21	303.4 
9	9	Kimi Räikkönen		10:57:05	303.2 
10	21	Christijan Albers	10:45:32	302.9 
11	7	Mark Webber		10:58:29	302.5 
12	4	Anthony Davidson	10:42:00	302.4 
13	17	Ralf Schumacher		10:41:28	302.2 
14	14	David Coulthard		10:42:39	301.8 
15	11	Jacques Villeneuve	10:40:48	301.3 
16	12	Felipe Massa		10:41:07	301.2 
17	18	Tiago Monteiro		10:56:17	301.0 
18	19	Narain Karthikeyan	10:24:28	299.7 
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	10:42:20	299.2
 
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This text will remain hidden until it's shown on ITV... :D

Yup..it's the qualifying results.

Saturday Qualifying.
Code:
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Team			Time[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		Renault			1:32.582		
2	16	Jarno Trulli		Toyota			1:32.672		
3	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Renault			1:32.765		
4	9	Kimi Räikkönen		McLaren-Mercedes	1:32.839		
5	17	Ralf Schumacher		Toyota			1:33.106		
6	7	Mark Webber		Williams-BMW		1:33.204		
7	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	McLaren-Mercedes	1:33.333		
8	8	Nick Heidfeld		Williams-BMW		1:33.464		
9	3	Jenson Button		BAR-Honda		1:33.616		
10	15	Christian Klien		Red Bull Racing		1:33.724		
11	14	David Coulthard		Red Bull Racing		1:33.809		
12	1	Michael Schumacher	Ferrari			1:34.072		
13	12	Felipe Massa		Sauber-Petronas		1:34.151		
14	2	Rubens Barrichello	Ferrari			1:34.162		
15	4	Anthony Davidson	BAR-Honda		1:34.866		
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	Sauber-Petronas		1:34.887		
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	Jordan-Toyota		1:37.806		
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		Jordan-Toyota		1:37.856		
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	Minardi-Cosworth	1:39.268		
20	21	Christijan Albers	Minardi-Cosworth	1:40.432

Sector Times

Code:
[b]Sector 1[/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	5	Fernando Alonso		23.858 
2	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	23.884 
3	16	Jarno Trulli		24.026 
4	9	Kimi Räikkönen		24.127 
5	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	24.157 
6	3	Jenson Button		24.240 
7	14	David Coulthard		24.244 
8	7	Mark Webber		24.245 
9	1	Michael Schumacher	24.273 
10	12	Felipe Massa		24.300 
11	8	Nick Heidfeld		24.323 
12	2	Rubens Barrichello	24.328 
13	4	Anthony Davidson	24.407 
14	11	Jacques Villeneuve	24.407 
15	17	Ralf Schumacher		24.469 
16	15	Christian Klien		24.543 
17	20	Patrick Friesacher	25.006 
18	19	Narain Karthikeyan	25.010 
19	18	Tiago Monteiro		25.299 
20	21	Christijan Albers	25.313

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[b]Sector 2 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	17	Ralf Schumacher		30.738 
2	16	Jarno Trulli		30.797 
3	5	Fernando Alonso		30.916 
4	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	30.920 
5	9	Kimi Räikkönen		30.926 
6	7	Mark Webber		30.966 
7	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	31.031 
8	3	Jenson Button		31.032 
9	8	Nick Heidfeld		31.083 
10	2	Rubens Barrichello	31.192 
11	15	Christian Klien		31.201 
12	1	Michael Schumacher	31.315 
13	14	David Coulthard		31.353 
14	12	Felipe Massa		31.511 
15	4	Anthony Davidson	31.751 
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	31.763 
17	18	Tiago Monteiro		32.726 
18	19	Narain Karthikeyan	33.155 
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	33.600 
20	21	Christijan Albers	34.049

Code:
[b]Sector 3 [/b]
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time[/b]
1	9	Kimi Räikkönen		37.786 
2	5	Fernando Alonso		37.808 
3	16	Jarno Trulli		37.849 
4	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	37.850 
5	17	Ralf Schumacher		37.899 
6	15	Christian Klien		37.980 
7	7	Mark Webber		37.993 
8	8	Nick Heidfeld		38.058 
9	14	David Coulthard		38.212 
10	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	38.256 
11	12	Felipe Massa		38.340 
12	3	Jenson Button		38.344 
13	1	Michael Schumacher	38.484 
14	2	Rubens Barrichello	38.642 
15	4	Anthony Davidson	38.708 
16	11	Jacques Villeneuve	38.717 
17	19	Narain Karthikeyan	39.641 
18	18	Tiago Monteiro		39.831 
19	20	Patrick Friesacher	40.662 
20	21	Christijan Albers	41.070

Speed Trap

Code:
[b]Pos	No	Driver			Time		Speed[/b]
1	1	Michael Schumacher	13:10:43	306.5 
2	2	Rubens Barrichello	13:52:49	306.1 
3	11	Jacques Villeneuve	13:22:35	305.7 
4	6	Giancarlo Fisichella	13:54:58	305.6 
5	5	Fernando Alonso		13:50:32	305.0 
6	12	Felipe Massa		13:32:22	304.7 
7	8	Nick Heidfeld		13:08:21	304.0 
8	3	Jenson Button		13:26:53	303.8 
9	16	Jarno Trulli		13:34:21	303.7 
10	9	Kimi Räikkönen		13:36:28	302.8 
11	17	Ralf Schumacher		13:24:41	302.5 
12	7	Mark Webber		13:46:03	302.5 
13	15	Christian Klien		13:38:29	302.4 
14	10	Juan Pablo Montoya	13:38:58	301.4 
15	4	Anthony Davidson	13:02:04	299.5 
16	21	Christijan Albers	13:06:20	299.4 
17	14	David Coulthard		13:48:19	299.0 
18	20	Patrick Friesacher	13:11:15	298.5 
19	19	Narain Karthikeyan	13:20:24	298.3 
20	18	Tiago Monteiro		13:18:24	296.2
 
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Interresting Qualifying news.

Davidson is using the engine from Sato's car in order to comply to the new engine regs. If he's used the one he's used before it would be considered an engine change :rolleyes:

Button had an engine failure Saturday morning so will drop 10 places on his final qualifying position.

Qualifying is a lot tighter that I was expecting..There's more than a few surprises in performance here. Could be an interesting race depening on how Q2 goes and how the performace holds up in race trim.

Simon/~Flibster
 
Interesting times.

I think tomorrows session could be fun, full'ish fuel load and tyres. Think those on the harder compound may be in a better position for the race, last laps in the GP will be great to watch.
 
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