2005 United States Grand Prix

goreblast · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:14

All the Ferrari bashers and haters are crawling out of the woodwork.

Blame the Frenchies! Not the Italians.

Very well said Jarno.

Rebelius · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:14

what must Flibster be thinking

I'd cry and be VERY angry!

This is a disgrace!

//Mike · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:15

Well, obviously someone out there didn't want the chicane built. Why should we not shift some of the blame to them? There was an obvious solution there, and they failed to reach it.

stu4691 · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:15

Over Clocker said:
While this is not Ferrari's fault, it just shows how little they care for the good of the sport.

I don`t agree with this. If the Bridgestones were in the same position as Michelin are, do you think the 7 Michelin teams would give in and allow a chicane or just get on and race with 14 of the 20 cars?

mmj_uk · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:16

do you think the michelin teams should install a chicane afterwards and have a quick non-championship race? for the crowds sake? if there are any crowd left...

i'd be well peed if i'd payed to see this.

edit: they are throwing stuff all over the pit straight now.

vanpeebles · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:16

a solution should have been reached because F1 is all about entertaining a crowd (should be ). embarassing, cant wait to see the reaction from the americans.

//Mike · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:16

Good idea mmj_uk!

Over Clocker · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:17

No one is disputing who the blame lies with...

West · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:18

mmj_uk said:
Barrichello just ran over a bottle of water.

Lmao, It's sad to see that a bottle of water being run over is the main highlight of a Grand Prix

I keep getting the feeling that the top guns of F1 are a bunch of stuck up ******** that just don't like using common sense just to get one over on eachother. I actually feel sorry for the fans resorting to throwing stuff all over the track.

:mad:

goreblast · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:18

The FIA clearly stated that the circuit would not be changed; to have changed the track would have been just as dangerous. No-one has been through this new chicane etc.

Rilot · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:18

Absolutely disgusting.

The poor fans who travelled to the circuit and paid so much money.

Over Clocker · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:19

stu4691 said:
I don`t agree with this. If the Bridgestones were in the same position as Michelin are, do you think the 7 Michelin teams would give in and allow a chicane or just get on and race with 14 of the 20 cars?

While it shouldn't make a difference, it does make a difference between 6 cars racing and 14 cars.

Flavio has just said all the michellin runners were willing to go out and race under the provisor they get no points at the end, all points go to the bridgestone guys.

xolotl · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:19

What a farce.

Its about the racing, not the politics.

//Mike · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:20

Then why not allow a half hour testing session and delay the race Goreblast? It is also the most techinically rich sport, and they have track simulations for testing all the time, I'm sure they could have sorted out some way for the chicane to be 'safe'.

Over Clocker · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:20

RACE LATEST:
Fans are increading stamping their feet, walking out, and throwing objects onto the track.

That is all.

cymatty · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:20

Rilot said:
Absolutely disgusting.

The poor fans who travelled to the circit and paid so much monry.

I agree but without waiting for new tryes from Michilien (sp) what else could be done?

Type_R · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:20

Martin Brundle had the solution, why didn't he mention it yesterday! No points for anyone except the Bridgestone runners in qualy order. Martin Brundle is to blame for this whole fiasco!!! ;-)

SKILL · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:20

imo there are two people to blame, Michelin for messing up in the biggest possible way, and they will feel it for a while to come...

But also the FIA, it is their job to ensure that the race goes ahead, safely, however that is implemented, if that means a chicane, or changing of tyres then so be it, i would heartily endorse the same changes if it was bridgestone who had messed up, whilst i dislike ferrari, and enjoy seeing them lose, i'd rather they were beaten rather than not even in the race...

This truly is a farce, the tv is off and now i've got ages to wait till Top Gear

Dougsnake · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:20

what a farce this is

sad day for f1............

goreblast · 19 Jun 2005 at 19:20

There will definately not be another USA gp with them throwing stuff onto the track. that helps no-one. At least we know which track we will lose when Bernie adds new venues to the championship.

2005 United States Grand Prix

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