2008 Belgian GP - Race 13/18

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Sorry struggling to understand this post. Mclaren go public with the fact that they asked twice if it was ok, the race control twice say yes but Mclaren are now lying?

Could you post your evidence for these lies please? I assume you have the recordings from Mclarens pit radios?

ron dennis cried on itv that his team did not have ferrari data
excuse me for taking anything that lot say with a lump of salt
 
It's a tough one. 37000 people had signedthat online petition when I looked yesterday. It's a grey area really. NAmely MS/Ferrari and other drivers in the past have got away with alsorts like backing off after safety car goes in, punting people off, and pulling the same manouvre as seen at Spa. The probem is now that the stewards seem to be going by the "If in doubt, penalise" rule.

I beleive the 25 second penalty was a bit too much. A drive through wouldn't have taken that long but I suppose it's consistent with a similar incedent being penalised with the same punishment. It does however not benefit the victim of the infraction, Kimi Raikkonen. I feel a 10 place drop at the next race would have been more apt maybe.
 
Why the conjecture concerning how other cars are performing when entering the chicane on the gearbox. Hamilton entered the complex in front, exited in front, gave the position back and took it again, not because of traction or slipstreaming but because Kimi broke too early.

do you understand he cut the chicane? had he followed the track would not have mattered if kimi broke early he would still not have been close enough to pass him
 
do you understand he cut the chicane? had he followed the track would not have mattered if kimi broke early he would still not have been close enough to pass him

I understand Kimi gave Hamilton 2 options, hit me or cut the chicane. Cant wait to see Hamilton use what he has learnt at Spa, forcing your opponents into cutting chicanes is a'ok! And then, Hamilton could make a mistake on the following corner allowing the chicane cutter back through, but not to worry.. theres that new "advantage" rule thats been modified.
 
well having an opinion based on facts is trolling in your mind so yes
stop trolling if you have nothing to add to the debate then press the back button
i thought i was on your ignore list anyhow?
 
I understand Kimi gave Hamilton 2 options, hit me or cut the chicane. Cant wait to see Hamilton use what he has learnt at Spa, forcing your opponents into cutting chicanes is a'ok! And then, Hamilton could make a mistake on the following corner allowing the chicane cutter back through, but not to worry.. theres that new "advantage" rule thats been modified.

hamilton already did the same to massa and nelson in germany lewis had the option to back out of the move
 
well having an opinion based on facts is trolling in your mind so yes
stop trolling if you have nothing to add to the debate then press the back button
i thought i was on your ignore list anyhow?

What like your opinion on the conversation between Mclaren and Race Control was based on fact? or its only a fact when it is your opinion?
 
lewis had the option to back out of the move

You only have to watch the youtube videos to see Hamilton try and get back in behind the Ferrari when he realises Kimi is going to drive him off the track, but its not going to happen. Why should he back out of the move anyway? He is there racing legitimately.
 
What like your opinion on the conversation between Mclaren and Race Control was based on fact? or its only a fact when it is your opinion?

we will see if it was fact
until then yes going by past history then they are probably lying
nevermind whitmarsh said they asked once now its changed to twice might be three times tomorrow never can tell

you have evidence that they asked twice then? hacked into their email system have you?
 
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