2008 Chinese GP - Race 17/18

Morning, just saw webbers engine failure - shame they used their joker.

fp3:
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Pos  Driver       Car                       Time
 1.  Heidfeld     BMW Sauber           (B)  1:36.061
 2.  Hamilton     McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:36.135  + 0.074
 3.  Kubica       BMW Sauber           (B)  1:36.150  + 0.089
 4.  Kovalainen   McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:36.324  + 0.263
 5.  Trulli       Toyota               (B)  1:36.396  + 0.335
 6.  Rosberg      Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:36.427  + 0.366
 7.  Bourdais     Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)  1:36.642  + 0.581
 8.  Coulthard    Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:36.712  + 0.651
 9.  Nakajima     Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:36.713  + 0.652
10.  Piquet       Renault              (B)  1:36.789  + 0.728
11.  Barrichello  Honda                (B)  1:36.839  + 0.778
12.  Massa        Ferrari              (B)  1:36.842  + 0.781
13.  Raikkonen    Ferrari              (B)  1:36.901  + 0.840
14.  Vettel       Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)  1:36.902  + 0.841
15.  Button       Honda                (B)  1:36.958  + 0.897
16.  Alonso       Renault              (B)  1:36.996  + 0.935
17.  Glock        Toyota               (B)  1:37.053  + 0.992
18.  Webber       Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:37.566  + 1.505
19.  Sutil        Force India-Ferrari  (B)  1:37.648  + 1.587
20.  Fisichella   Force India-Ferrari  (B)  1:37.964  + 1.903
 
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THe usual excellent performances, almost a carbon copy of last week!

I know all the negative press with LH, but he's held it together (for now) and lets see what happens tomorrow.

I'm not sure who makes the decisions, but I always get the feeling that LH's 'risky' choices never seem to pay off, as seen in Q2 and the first fast lap of Q3, yet Ferrari rarely make a bad decision
 
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Stormrider said:
Rather harsh words from DC about Heidfeld there.
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They were somewhat. I've never really been aware of Heidfeld being particularly unsportsmanlike but the whole "that was very unsportsmanlike and that pretty much sums the man up in general", or words to that effect, seemed extremely harsh.
 
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Times
01 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:36.303 
02 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:36.645 
03 F. Massa Ferrari 1:36.889 
04 F. Alonso Renault 1:36.927 
05 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:36.930 
06 M. Webber Red Bull 1:37.083 
07 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:37.201 
08 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:37.685 
09 J. Trulli Toyota 1:37.934 
10 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:38.885 
11 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:35.722 
12 R. Kubica BMW 1:35.814 
13 T. Glock Toyota 1:35.937 
14 R. Barrichello Honda 1:36.079 
15 N. Rosberg Williams 1:36.210 
16 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:36.731 
17 K. Nakajima Williams 1:36.863 
18 J. Button Honda 1:37.053 
19 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:37.730 
20 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:37.739
 
Sorry guys ive been ill all week with a chest and sinus infection so I was a part timer, sky plussed it and just caught the last bit of qualy three.

I hope Lewis doesnt mess it up this time, and I promise faithfully I am getting up for the race.....cant promise not to give you my lurgy though.
:)
 
Demon said:
THe usual excellent performances, almost a carbon copy of last week!

I know all the negative press with LH, but he's held it together (for now) and lets see what happens tomorrow.

I'm not sure who makes the decisions, but I always get the feeling that LH's 'risky' choices never seem to pay off, as seen in Q2 and the first fast lap of Q3, yet Ferrari rarely make a bad decision
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LH has still got at least one extra prime set compared to the Ferrari's (didnt they use prime in Q1 when LH didnt?

Either way even if they havent - so Lewis had to do one more run (effectively on the harder tyres) so it hasnt actually cost him anything

I honestly dont think LH will make a balls up tomorrow, he will be calmer and even if he goes into corner 1 3rd, I think he can beat at least one of the Ferrari's tomorrow and probably both if it does rain
 
Good qually for hamilton, obviously got a very quick car under him, kubica all but out of the running now with that result, don't know why his car was so dog slow compared to heidfeld. Not running a wet weather set up is he? :D Kovaleinen his usual slow self so wont be of any help to LH. Shall be a good race dry or not.
 
CS||nuTs said:
So much for the "sandbagging" :)
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Hmm. He does seem to be pushing awfully hard. He went sailing up the pitlane escape road in the free practice this morning - hope he was just getting it out of the way so it wouldn't happen in the race....
 
JRS said:
Hmm. He does seem to be pushing awfully hard. He went sailing up the pitlane escape road in the free practice this morning - hope he was just getting it out of the way so it wouldn't happen in the race....
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I think he did it delibrately to test how late he can brake. He probably now considers that ******* of a pit lane entry corner to be just another corner of the track that he must master and master well.
 
no one posted so heres the full quali results

1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes ----- 1:35.566 // 1:34.947 // 1:36.303
2 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari ----------------- 1:35.983 // 1:35.355 // 1:36.645
3 Felipe Massa Ferrari ------------------- 1:35.971 // 1:35.135 // 1:36.889
4 Fernando Alonso Renault -------------- 1:35.769 // 1:35.461 // 1:36.927
5 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes --- 1:35.623 //1:35.216 // 1:36.930
6 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault --------- 1:36.238 // 1:35.686 // 1:37.083
7 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber ------------- 1:36.224 // 1:35.403 // 1:37.201
8 Sebastian Vettel STR-Ferrari ---------- 1:35.752 // 1:35.386 // 1:37.685
9 Jarno Trulli Toyota -------------------- 1:36.104 // 1:35.715 // 1:37.934
10 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari -------- 1:36.239 // 1:35.478 // 1:38.885
11 Nelsinho Piquet Renault --------------- 1:36.029 // 1:35.722
12 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber ----------- 1:36.503 // 1:35.814
13 Timo Glock Toyota ------------------- 1:36.210 // 1:35.937
14 Rubens Barrichello Honda ------------- 1:36.640 // 1:36.079
15 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota --------- 1:36.434 // 1:36.210
16 David Coulthard Red Bull-Renault ------ 1:36.731
17 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota ------ 1:36.863
18 Jenson Button Honda ----------------- 1:37.053
19 Adrian Sutil Force India-Ferrari -------- 1:37.730
20 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Ferrari - 1:37.739


took me ages to do that

the 2nd quali lap from hamilton was a belter
 
NathanE said:
I think he did it delibrately to test how late he can brake. He probably now considers that ******* of a pit lane entry corner to be just another corner of the track that he must master and master well.
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Oh my God....

Right. There we have it folks. The Hamilton fans are now even able to justify him skipping off the road. Utterly brilliant, NathanE. I have to salute that. Let me guess - he had his Turn 1 moment last time out in Japan as a way of testing just how good his brakes were as well? :D
 
Well wasn't expecting that from you JRS :confused: Sometimes you post with your head but quite rarely you turn into a hot headed Massa.

It's not that unreasonable is it. Probability of a wet race exists and is quite high.

LH probably wanted to test out that escape road and the reverse gear procedure. He said just the other day that he was reviewing Youtube clips of his mistake there last year. It is clearly on his mind. He probably kicks himself for not taking the escape road last year and reversing back - at least he would have only lost tops of 15 seconds.
 
Be interesting to see the fuel strats for tomorrow as kovaleinen was up there mixing it but was nowhere near the pace in the final qually. May be going longer. I expect hamilton will have similar fuel load to massa with the pace he was showing throughout all the sessions.
 
SoliD said:
Be interesting to see the fuel strats for tomorrow as kovaleinen was up there mixing it but was nowhere near the pace in the final qually. May be going longer. I expect hamilton will have similar fuel load to massa with the pace he was showing throughout all the sessions.
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from the speed hamilton was going, i bet he is a lap or 2 heavier. i think raikonen will do same as last race and hope hamilton makes a mistake again.

kovi needed to get infront of massa i thought they would have fueled him quite light. he did make a mistake so maybe he is and will have to try and overtake or keep pressure on massa atleast.
 
With they tyre problems here would not surprise me if Lewis has to stop 1 time more than Massa, like he had to in Turkey. Looking good for Kimi to repay Lewis :p
 
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