Poll: *** 2010 General Election Result & Discussion ***

[Energize]

Proof they are stupid. After all the damage Labour has done....

The sample size is statistically insignificant.

 

[mattx2]

I hope Labour doesn't rebuild quickly.

As a Conservative voter I hope they do.

because political competion is a good thing just like in business competition breeds inovation and better products well the same applies to politics competion breeds better polices and better candidates which should lead improved economic growth and a better society

 

[Settleddown]

 

[Rich_L]

Reading the Daily Mail website is just wonderful, their standard outpourings of hate and bile at Cameron's coalition is just brilliant - the more the Daily Mail hates you normally is a good indication that you're doing something right so well done to both Cameron & Clegg

 

[Dolph]

Reading the Daily Mail website is just wonderful, their standard outpourings of hate and bile at Cameron's coalition is just brilliant - the more the Daily Mail hates you normally is a good indication that you're doing something right so well done to both Cameron & Clegg

indeed, the independent hates it as well (because it's not Labour and they are irrationally tribalist), so both extremes are covered. The Gruniad is funny as well, watching them praising the positions of the coalitions while getting in that it must be wrong because it's not lib/lab...

 

[stockhausen]

Reading the Daily Mail website is just wonderful, their standard outpourings of hate and bile at Cameron's coalition is just brilliant - the more the Daily Mail hates you normally is a good indication that you're doing something right so well done to both Cameron & Clegg

I don't think that the Daily Mail ever gets anything right; it beggars belief that they used some slapper to set up a sting on Lord Triesman with the likely outcome that we will not get to have the World Cup in the UK in 2018.

Complete and utter scum

 

[Narj]

I wonder if the Govt will start to tackle the BA Strikes, seeing as they aren't bankrolled by the unions.... *gets popcorn*

 

[Hatter The Mad]

 

[Naffa]

Coalition creates 100 peers with Lords deal

David Cameron and Nick Clegg will create more than 100 peers to ensure that controversial legislation gets through Parliament.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7128387.ece


"We're going to make your politics better value for money."

 

[meghatronic]

Coalition creates 100 peers with Lords deal

David Cameron and Nick Clegg will create more than 100 peers to ensure that controversial legislation gets through Parliament.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7128387.ece


"We're going to make your politics better value for money."

Hardly warrants a response given their rationalle (“to reshape the House of Lords, which is currently dominated by Labour, to be reflective of the vote”) and:

(wiki).

 

[Dj_Jestar]

357!! Wow!

 

[stockhausen]

Strangely enough, there seem to be more than ten times as many Tory Hereditary peers as Labour - I wonder why that might be

The sooner the House of Lords is completely reformed the better

 

[Hatter The Mad]

It should come as no surprise that over the next week Osborne will reveal our national debt is closer to £2trillion than it is to £1trillion, because as the EU and OECD have been lobbying for Gordon Brown to do for a long time, Osborne will count in Brown's off-the-books, Enron-style debts - hidden under PFI and public sector pension obligations.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/a...w-gordon-brown-cooked-the-nations-books.thtml

 

[The Mad Rapper]

It should come as no surprise that over the next week Osborne will reveal our national debt is closer to £2trillion than it is to £1trillion, because as the EU and OECD have been lobbying for Gordon Brown to do for a long time, Osborne will count in Brown's off-the-books, Enron-style debts - hidden under PFI and public sector pension obligations.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/a...w-gordon-brown-cooked-the-nations-books.thtml

I hope he does - we should have a full understanding of what the problem is.

 

[Cosimo]

Isn’t Gordo still to publish his resignation peers list or is that just a rumour?

 

[scorza]

It makes me laugh that the Conservatives election campaign was all about efficiency savings and bashing quangos. So what's the first thing that George Osborne does as Chancellor? Why he sets up a new quango called the Office for Budget Responsibility. Not that I necessarily disagree with the point of this new quango, but it seems like quangos are only bad if they were set up by Labour.

 

[Dj_Jestar]

I hope he does - we should have a full understanding of what the problem is.

Indeed. A completely open agenda is what we need.

Off topic: I keep getting you and Hatter the Mad confused

 

[Hatter The Mad]

It makes me laugh that the Conservatives election campaign was all about efficiency savings and bashing quangos. So what's the first thing that George Osborne does as Chancellor? Why he sets up a new quango called the Office for Budget Responsibility. Not that I necessarily disagree with the point of this new quango, but it seems like quangos are only bad if they were set up by Labour.

So an independent auditor of the government, to prevent what Labour have done for the last 13 years (hiding debts from the public, EU and OECD), is a bad thing? The Tories have been anti useless quangos, rightly so.

The Office for Budget Responsibility (we’ve written about it a number of times when the Tories first came up with the plan) will effectively advise the Government whether its fiscal plans are good enough to help it meet its goals (which it will set out in the emergency Budget on June 22nd). But unlike the Bank of England, it can only advise on policy – not do it itself. Let’s say Osborne wants to cut the structural budget deficit down to, let’s say, 2pc of GDP by the end of the Parliament. At each Budget and autumn statement, the OBR will reveal what probability it believes the Government will have of hitting that target within five years’ time. If the probability is below 50pc, it will be highly embarrassing for the Chancellor.

 

[scorza]

So an independent auditor of the government, to prevent what Labour have done for the last 13 years (hiding debts from the public, EU and OECD), is a bad thing?

Did I say that? If anything I said the opposite. I just think it's a tad hypocritical to criticise Labour for wasting money through Quangos and then start setting up your own as soon as you get into power.

 

[PlacidCasual]

Strangely enough, there seem to be more than ten times as many Tory Hereditary peers as Labour - I wonder why that might be

The sooner the House of Lords is completely reformed the better

736 Lords of which 92 are not beholden to patronage for their position, Tory Hereditary peers are not a roadblock to reform. Ironically they are the only Lords to have been elected, even if it was from an electoral college, membership of which was, granted by birth.

Replacing the current Lords with party list selected PR Lords wouldn't be a good argument for reform or removing the reins of patronage.

I think a good system would be 100 Lords from selected from general election PR.
1 Lords directly elected from each county of the UK.
150 Lords who are chosen by a committee of the commons on a cross bench mandate.