Poll: *** 2010 General Election Result & Discussion ***
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It's good to see that the Tories aren't going to pursue "populist" agendas
Man of Honour
I think the Lid Dems wanted a clause that excluded R36's in Biscay Blue Dolph.
Man of Honour
It's good to see that the Tories aren't going to pursue "populist" agendas
I see it more as fair and common sense.
The car is here to stay is largely a neccessity.
I work 18 miles from home which is 25 minutes in the car but easily an hour and a half by public transport.
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And it seems that the Transport Secretary agrees with you:
Well that shows the extent of his commitment to make cars "greener"
I don't know what your definition of "essential" is. Is it enough to survive in an arctic sleeping bag, or 5 layers of shirts, or a t-shirt without shivering. You have to be realistic here. I think it is essential for people to be able to heat their home to a temperature they are comfortable living at. This is a first world country and living standards should be as such.
Taxes create administration costs, the most efficient tax system is one where there is as few taxes as possible, ie one rate of tax on all luxury goods and none on essential ones, creating multiple levels results in more beaurocracy. Taxing people on heating costs and then paying them the tax back again in the form of fuel payments is senseless and inefficient.
Those are not the only two options, in the real world there are many other options, ie, no tax on fuel and use the money saved from administration costs + spending cuts to subsidise poor peoples bills.
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And it seems that the Transport Secretary agrees with you:
Well that shows the extent of his commitment to make cars "greener"
What car you own doesn't necessarily show anything. Usage is what determines impact.
The single biggest mistake being made around 'green' cars is the idea that they have to be slow, badly equipped, uncomfortable and generally rubbish. This is the reason why they haven't taken off.
Soldato
You continue to amaze me. Not in a good way.And it seems that the Transport Secretary agrees with you:Well that shows the extent of his commitment to make cars "greener"
Soldato
At least you have company in the pool of bitterness you seem to want to wallow in.
Quite the contrary, "One Shotgun Wedding and A Bloody Long Funeral" sums it up nicely, sounds like fun. But fun isn't really what you want in terms of running the country.
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And it seems that the Transport Secretary agrees with you:Well that shows the extent of his commitment to make cars "greener"
This new cabinet just gets better!
Talk about bitter, just because they didn't continue the authoritarian, money wasting reign of labour...
Soldato
Labour screwed the working class and until they go back to being a proper left/liberal party i could never vote for them.
Were Labour ever Liberal?, were they not socialist.
Indeed, Labour have never been Liberal...
I'd also note that you don't have to be left wing to not screw the working classes
Left wing thinking just requires you to believe that only the government can help people and that the government owns all the money...
Man of Honour
Well that shows the extent of his commitment to make cars "greener"
Are you aware that the previous Government based the scale of vehicle excise duty on a cars carbon emmissions?
And are you aware of the fundamental flaw in that?
Indeed, Labour have never been Liberal...
I'd also note that you don't have to be left wing to not screw the working classes
People confuse the liberal socialist ideals such as the Welfare state and the NHS with Labour without realising that it was Liberals that actually came up with the idea and the plans for it. Labour just took the credit.