2011 Census soon!

Viper² · 20 Feb 2011 at 10:53

rypt said:
I disagree with pointless questions such as the ones about ethnicity, religious views, country of birth, etc.

I also do not see why they need data on things they already know via other sources (paying council tax, electoral register, DVLA addresses, income tax, schools, NHS surgeries, etc).
For instance they ask information about your accommodation, yet they should have all this info already from the land registry, planning offices and local councils.

Religion is voluntary, and why do you care that the government will know your place of birth or Ethnicity? lol

Cosimo · 20 Feb 2011 at 10:53

Viper² said:
32-page questionnaire? FFS..

It's not going to kill you. Have a cup of tea and you’ll do it in no time.

[TW]Fox · 20 Feb 2011 at 10:54

rypt said:
I disagree with pointless questions such as the ones about ethnicity, religious views, country of birth, etc.

Who are you to decide whats pointless? Those questions are as important as any of the other, they will provide us with detailed information about the makeup of our country. You can even use the data from the census in a few years time to backup points about how horrible imimgration is!

I also do not see why they need data on things they already know via other sources (paying council tax, electoral register, DVLA addresses, income tax, schools, NHS surgeries, etc).
For instance they ask information about your accommodation, yet they should have all this info already from the land registry, planning offices and local councils.

There is nothing like the required level of datasharing within local government agencies to allow this to work. Yet another example of you oversimplifying everything. I fully expect you to reply with 'WELL JUST SHARE THE DATA THEN LOL'.

Viper² · 20 Feb 2011 at 10:56

simulatorman said:
It's not going to kill you. Have a cup of tea and you’ll do it in no time.

I don't like tea.

I'll just do it at work. Nothing more of a sweetner than getting paid to do it.

GJ02 · 20 Feb 2011 at 10:56

what questions does it ask ?

stockhausen · 20 Feb 2011 at 10:58

A number of points:

I object to the census being organised by ANY foreign company
I am not convinced that the census data will not be used commercially or for surveillance purposes (e.g. the UK ID Card)
I believe that the census is largely a "fishing" expedition

I can entirely understand why someone would provide misleading information (e.g. born in Ramsbottom). Anyone who refuses to complete the form, pays £1,000 and gets a criminal record for a political protest will earn my deep respect

neocon · 20 Feb 2011 at 10:58

Can you imagine the cost of administering this project?

I bet they plan to sell the information

Tefal · 20 Feb 2011 at 10:59

rypt said:
I disagree with pointless questions such as the ones about ethnicity, religious views, country of birth, etc.

I also do not see why they need data on things they already know via other sources (paying council tax, electoral register, DVLA addresses, income tax, schools, NHS surgeries, etc).
For instance they ask information about your accommodation, yet they should have all this info already from the land registry, planning offices and local councils.

it's easier to ask you, than to hire thousands of people to trawl though all the records and collate everything.

Not to mention it would be much less secure and confidential.

stockhausen · 20 Feb 2011 at 11:00

neocon said:
... I bet they plan to sell the information

Yes, they do.

Cosimo · 20 Feb 2011 at 11:00

GJ02 said:
what questions does it ask ?

How long is your dick?

Take a look:;

http://www.census.ac.uk/guides/Qf.aspx

Tefal · 20 Feb 2011 at 11:01

neocon said:
Can you imagine the cost of administering this project?

I bet they plan to sell the information

err it costs < the £150 million which they are paid by the uk government.

They wont even see the info let alone sell it.

Goberpiles316 · 20 Feb 2011 at 11:01

Yes they have been carrying out the Census since 1801 to get to the stage of selling details and giving us an id card, jeez some people need to leave the house and relise life isnt a movie.

neocon · 20 Feb 2011 at 11:01

But a spokesman for the ONS dismissed the fears. "No personal census data will be handled or seen by any American-owned company. No Lockheed Martin employees will see or handle any personal census data. The public can be reassured that their personal details from the census will be kept confidential and will remain so for 100 years," he said.

yes right

[TW]Fox · 20 Feb 2011 at 11:02

stockhausen said:
A number of points:

I object to the census being organised by ANY foreign company

I am not convinced that the census data will not be used commercially or for surveillance purposes (e.g. the UK ID Card)

I believe that the census is largely a "fishing" expedition

I can entirely understand why someone would provide misleading information (e.g. born in Ramsbottom). Anyone who refuses to complete the form, pays £1,000 and gets a criminal record for a political protest will earn my deep respect

Whats it like being you? Do you hide under your bed during daylight hours? You are the most paranoid person I have ever had the misfortune to encounter on an internet forum.

You'd enjoy life a lot more if you stopped worrying about every little detail and stopped thinking everyone was out to get you.

We have had a 10 yearly census for 200 years. It isnt about ID cards or making money from your personal data. Honestly, and some of you try and claim to be educated? Stop with the ridiculous paranoia.

RDM · 20 Feb 2011 at 11:02

Should be a nice learning exercise for my daughter, will get her involved and let her know what the various questions are all about, why it is done, that sort of thing.

Cosimo · 20 Feb 2011 at 11:03

stockhausen said:
Yes, they do.

No one will buy it when they find out you’ve done it.

Nikumba · 20 Feb 2011 at 11:03

As said above its used for futer planning etc.

The reason not to involve a UK firm, as I doubt there is a firm that can do it, the government screwed up the new IR system, the child benefit one, not to mead EADS, HP, Fujitsu who all do gove contracts over charge and are generally shambolic in their attempt to run a project to time or cost.

Tefal · 20 Feb 2011 at 11:04

neocon said:
yes right

So do you have all the news stories from when they sold all the information from all the other censuses they've done?

Castiel · 20 Feb 2011 at 11:05

RDM said:
Should be a nice learning exercise for my daughter, will get her involved and let her know what the various questions are all about, why it is done, that sort of thing.

Exactly.

Stumble Bum · 20 Feb 2011 at 11:06

I'm just going to fill it in with loads of mickey mouse info and avoid the £1000 fine. If I wanted to provide the Government with all the info they're after I would happily do so of my own free will. However, the fact they can fine and prosecute you means I won't be giving them a helping hand.

Give me back my freewill please.

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