2012 predictions

Skeeter · 28 Nov 2011 at 17:25

Testing starts 7th Feb 2012, at Jerez.

New cars will be unveiled throughout Jan and Feb.

TaKeN · 28 Nov 2011 at 19:05

Brilliant, not too long to wait. Thanks Skeeter!

Duke · 28 Nov 2011 at 19:52

There will be threads for each testing week and car launch

Irish_Tom · 28 Nov 2011 at 20:29

Duke said:
There will be threads for each testing week and car launch

Showoff!

Skeeter · 28 Nov 2011 at 20:52

Duke said:
There will be threads for each testing week and car launch

Sparky · 2 Dec 2011 at 00:16

I have a sneaky suspicion.......

Sparky · 2 Dec 2011 at 00:16

Im going for £100 on Seb

Skeeter · 2 Dec 2011 at 00:23

Its a shame the odds make it barely worth it though.

sunama · 2 Dec 2011 at 00:24

Hehehe.

I'm not usually a betting man (unless its a calculated risk), but I tell you what, I'm tempted to bet on Seb myself.

The odds can't be too good, though.

Skeeter · 2 Dec 2011 at 00:28

An each way on Webber is a better bet. At 1/5th odd for a top 3 finish it will return you 2.4/1 at the moment, which is a lot better than evens for Vettel winning.

And if Nuts is so confident, I think its safe to assume Webber will be getting in the top 3

Edit: Just noticed Hamilton is second favorate... the Bookies clearly have some confidence he will turn it around. And lol at these

Sparky · 2 Dec 2011 at 01:17

Skeeter said:
Its a shame the odds make it barely worth it though.

Ive got a bet with Seb

Duke · 2 Dec 2011 at 08:31

My either way bets on Web and But just about worked out this time, didn't pay much out though. Might just go for one or two single bets on WDC only.

Shimmy · 5 Dec 2011 at 11:20

https://twitter.com/#!/adamcooperf1/status/143646837574877185

Mercedes behind already?

Edit: possible reason from Scarbs https://twitter.com/#!/ScarbsF1/status/143652161597874176

arknor · 5 Dec 2011 at 11:48

Sparky-F1 said:
Ive got a bet with Seb

me to , i bet him he couldnt beat msc at roc and now hes ignoring all my calls! the bet was only for his beanie hat FFS!

he must love it very much

Shimmy said:
Shimmy said:

https://twitter.com/#!/adamcooperf1/status/143646837574877185

Mercedes behind already?

Edit: possible reason from Scarbs https://twitter.com/#!/ScarbsF1/status/143652161597874176

Click to expand...

sounds like scarbs suspects no one wants to give anything away at all on their cars

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Skeeter · 5 Dec 2011 at 12:22

Its becoming common practice for teams to not bring their new cars to the first test recently. I wouldn't read to much into it. After all, didn't RBR miss the first test entirely this year?

Tweaker · 5 Dec 2011 at 13:15

The testing has to change, the smaller teams need more time. Also, there should be another driver test at the start of the year.

sunama · 5 Dec 2011 at 13:45

Skeeter said:
Its becoming common practice for teams to not bring their new cars to the first test recently. I wouldn't read to much into it. After all, didn't RBR miss the first test entirely this year?

Nope.
RBR were present for all tests.
It was actually McLaren who missed the first test.

Last year however, RBR did miss the first test.
The year before that BrawnGP missed the first 2 tests (I think it was...though that was a freak of a car).

joem1983 · 5 Dec 2011 at 14:03

Lets hope its a cracker. I'd like to see another freak

Skeeter · 5 Dec 2011 at 15:49

Tweaker said:
The testing has to change, the smaller teams need more time. Also, there should be another driver test at the start of the year.

I did some very rough maths that worked out that 1x 3day in-season test would increase the testing time available to teams by 50% (assuming that Friday of a race weekend is considered their only in season test time). 2 in season tests would have meant teams like Team Lotus (Caterham) would have been in the position they are now (the end of 2011) at the very start of this season.

sunama said:
Nope.
RBR were present for all tests.
It was actually McLaren who missed the first test.

Last year however, RBR did miss the first test.
The year before that BrawnGP missed the first 2 tests (I think it was...though that was a freak of a car).

Did RBR bring their new car to the first test this year?

Either way, not bringing your new car to the first test is not uncommon, and also not a sign of impending failure.

arknor · 5 Dec 2011 at 18:05

Skeeter said:
Either way, not bringing your new car to the first test is not uncommon, and also not a sign of impending failure.

i remember a few times when ferrari didnt even use the new car for the first few season races and im sure mclaren have done the same before.