Soldato
Tbh, they just don't look or sound that spectacular on the telly.
I admire the new tech, though, just not sure it fits f1
I admire the new tech, though, just not sure it fits f1
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The noise has never been much of a thing for me either. I'm much more interested in the new tech and the shaking up of the status quo with the new rules. The engine noise has changed many times over the years, and this is just another change we'll get used to.
If it's really ruined the sport for you, then you'll have to find some other formula to watch, because I can't see them changing it much. I think those turbos are taking so much energy out of the exhaust, and the engines are that much more efficient that there's just not as much energy left to make noise out of the exhaust.
If it's really ruined the sport for you, then you'll have to find some other formula to watch, because I can't see them changing it much. I think those turbos are taking so much energy out of the exhaust, and the engines are that much more efficient that there's just not as much energy left to make noise out of the exhaust.
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Like this thread you mean....
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18214990&highlight=breakaway+username_skeeter
So why do you now think it's not so important? Or are you just looking for someone new to argue with
If the tech doesn't fit F1 though, the obvious question to follow is does F1 really fit the world today?
In a world where manufacturers are being forced to become more efficient, more 'green', cut emissions etc. what place does a Formula series of big thirsty high power high revving engines fit?
Nowhere is the ultimate answer, it wouldn't have been long before big manufacturers started to lose interest in funding yet another million dollar diffuser variant to suit a particular track with virtually no advertising or marketing benefits stemming from it.
Instead we have another engine manufacturer joining the fray again in Honda who obviously see significant opportunity now, a trend that is hopefully set to continue.
Nice to see Skeeter sticking to his principles.Like this thread you mean....
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18214990&highlight=breakaway+username_skeeter
So why do you now think it's not so important? Or are you just looking for someone new to argue with
This is Formula 1. It doesn't need to fit.
So why do you now think it's not so important? Or are you just looking for someone new to argue with
Because I'm one if the 0.4% who have experienced it live so no what is gone.
However I can also do maths an understand I'm insignificant in the big picture.
It does if you need to keep finding people to plough £500 million a year into it surely? I can't imagine there are many people willing to throw that sort of cash at it for nothing more than the sport of it these days?
The manufacturers need something in return and the addition of Honda would suggest this isn't a bad thing in that regard.
The manufacturers need something in return and the addition of Honda would suggest this isn't a bad thing in that regard.
So who funds it if its irrelevent to everybody? The tooth fairy?
You know something. You are the only person in this subforum who posts this way. You think that by insulting and posting ridiculous comments you are being funny. You are not.
In fact, didn't I suspend you for being an idiot some time ago? I think that explains your obvious desire to fall out with me and provoke a similar reaction. Don't waste your time. It won't work.
Soldato
F1 used to be garagiste using cosworth dfvs versus Ferrari, Renault and a fair few others who didn't do as well.
Yes we need progress, but f1 doesn't need manufacturers.
Just like it doesn't need the money from dodgy regimes and financiers.
Bernie and CVC need the money.
With viewers, the teams will get funding, but that won't help CVC.
I just can't see how the new tech adds to the spectacle.
So who will make the engines?
Other than a few rebranded efforts and the odd dedicated engine maker like Cosworth, F1 engines have always been made by car manufacturers.
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To me F1 isn't a spectical. Its a racing formula.
However, I would welcome the loss of some of the dodgy investors and these tracks out in the middle of no-where.
It just strikes me as kind of strange that the sound, of all the things that have happened in F1 over the last 15 or so years is the thing that makes people go "Nope this isn't F1".
All this hybrid tech that's out there, its about time that we start taking it seriously.
To me, F1 using it is just a very small step forward.
Standard engines are going the way of the Steam Train. They are old and inefficient and their reign has gone on for far too long.
However, I would welcome the loss of some of the dodgy investors and these tracks out in the middle of no-where.
It just strikes me as kind of strange that the sound, of all the things that have happened in F1 over the last 15 or so years is the thing that makes people go "Nope this isn't F1".
All this hybrid tech that's out there, its about time that we start taking it seriously.
To me, F1 using it is just a very small step forward.
Standard engines are going the way of the Steam Train. They are old and inefficient and their reign has gone on for far too long.
Soldato
QUOTE=Skeeter;26085888]So who will make the engines?
Other than a few rebranded efforts and the odd dedicated engine maker like Cosworth, F1 engines have always been made by car manufacturers.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure there has ever been a sustained shortage of engines, occasionally maybe,
Normally the manufacturer that is involved agrees to supply more teams.
Engine manufacture is different to team ownership.
Its been Ferrari Renault merc for ages, cosworth tried to break back in but for some reason couldnt , Honda quit because the car engine package was rubbish, couldn't get sponsorship and the global car market imploded.
If the viewers leave , the manufacturers will go come what may. Personally I think they should have stuck with v8s, reduced the aero and other tricks, made the tyres last etc, got rid of drs.
We need to see fast cars driven on the limit.
Other than a few rebranded efforts and the odd dedicated engine maker like Cosworth, F1 engines have always been made by car manufacturers.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure there has ever been a sustained shortage of engines, occasionally maybe,
Normally the manufacturer that is involved agrees to supply more teams.
Engine manufacture is different to team ownership.
Its been Ferrari Renault merc for ages, cosworth tried to break back in but for some reason couldnt , Honda quit because the car engine package was rubbish, couldn't get sponsorship and the global car market imploded.
If the viewers leave , the manufacturers will go come what may. Personally I think they should have stuck with v8s, reduced the aero and other tricks, made the tyres last etc, got rid of drs.
We need to see fast cars driven on the limit.
Soldato
This is all correct, but think back to the feeling on the last lap in 2008, and the impact of that. We haven't had that since, except maybe Abu boring once.
Soldato
Horner defends Vettel's criticism of new engines - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/26811750