2014 FIFA World Cup Qualifying 7/8/11 September *** Spoilers ***

Don't know why we didn't get Defoe in the team sooner he was the natural replacement for Michael Owen.

he's certainly shining on the international front the last couple off opportunities he's had but he often, quite simply, doesn't do well enough. and that's coming from a spurs fan. he will always come up with a goal though.

WHAT A GOAL from ukraine
 
I'm assuming apart from Baines/cleverly/Jagielka (who'll be replaced by cold/Rooney/terry) this is the team that hodgson will likely take to the WC (assuming we qualify)

Can't really see the difference from any of our last few tournaments at this rate.
 
He's not a goal scorer The Running Man... Who has ever rated him at being where he was?

are you referring to cleverley?

if so, i understand that his main role is not to score goals. however, i often have trouble understanding how any player, be they a defender or holding mid, could not, as a proffessional, finish such an easy task. lot's of players, including strikers, are culpable.
 
I said don't play him up front because his pedigree is missing sitters and fluffing most of his chances.

I suppose Neymar is overrated for hitting the bar on an open goal?

Who the hell ever said Cleverely was a goalscorer?! You absolute lunatic.

He's a creative midfielder. Sometimes they end up in these positions and put them away.
 
are you referring to cleverley?

if so, i understand that his main role is not to score goals. however, i often have trouble understanding how any player, be they a defender or holding mid, could not, as a proffessional, finish such an easy task. lot's of players, including strikers, are culpable.

See it all the time.surprises me too, but that's not the argument here.

On the side of that argument, you'd think a defender was still a more accurate striker of a football than a Sunday league player... Doesn't seem to work like that weirdly :/
 
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