2017 KIA Stinger GT -Wow

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At that price it just won't sell, no chance. People who buy performance cars (especially at that price) aren't going to consider a Kia when shopping around. I know I wouldn't.

Kia have no experience making sports cars, so I'm not expecting it's handling to be all that great vs alternatives.
 
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SDK^ said:
^ yep
The Audi S4 is £44k and BMW 340i £41k which are the cars Kia is aiming to compete with.

The price isn't confirmed yet - speculation it will be in the £37k-£45k range.
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Seen it said its going to be £30k by some motoring press so will sell at the price, well under the BMW and AUdi model prices.

Plus Albert Biermann, formerly of BMW M has done the handling so it might not be that bad on that front.

Also interested to see that they intend to do a V8 version as well.
 
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paradigm said:
Without the performance?

It's more powerful than all but the S7 and RS7, and equals the fastest "normal" A7 for 0-60 time :confused:
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Fair one I didn't read the BLUF, I just used the "it's a KIA" yardstick and thought it wouldn't match the Audi in terms of performance.

£45k will be a hard sell I'd imagine.
 
Honestly I think it's a great looking car, we had a KIA sportage 8 years or so ago I think.. Never had a single problem. Certainly not a car I wouldn't say no to second hand.
 
The curse of boring reliable cars - they always want to be one sector higher than they belong to. Skoda used to be the cheap alternative within VW group and at £16k for top of the range Octavia and £20k for Superb they were exactly that. Today, when the L&K Octy starts at nearly £30k the Skodas are often more expensive than equivalent VW or Seat and up-specced Superb can easily go very deep into Audi territory pricewise. And that's a mistake, because Skoda was a great budget car, but it's not nowhere near Audi material.

It's the same with far eastern brands. Subaru for example is a Skoda of Japan. An honest, rough around the edges brand for ex-Volvo mum in rural setting with one sporty model to keep the name afloat in dads memory. Yet UK importers (the same wench of bankers that killed Daihatsu brand in UK and are about to finish off Isuzu) seem to think it should be priced as if the brand could compete with BMW on the isles. And the same curse affects Kia. It needs to be affordably priced Ford competitor, but the brand quite clearly has appetite for Jaguar niche market.
 
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We have a top of the range KIA, the list price is £42,000 but compared to German cars of the same price, it is worth half that because although loaded with features, none of them work properly and are more like attempts to desperately tick-boxes to add value. What's more, the whole thing just feels fundamentally flawed and as though the person who made each part never met those who made all the other parts until it was time to put them all together, just small things like mismatch in backlight colour temps and brightness on the various LCDs to more serious flaws like voice recognition that doesn't work, SPAS that doesn't work, rain-sensing wipers that don't work well at all, seatbelts of unoccupied seats that bang on the B pillar on every bump etc...

In my opinion, KIA should have stayed simple and cheap with long warranties.
 
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