2017 KIA Stinger GT -Wow
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hmm, looks awful in white and the bonnet holes look cheap.
I would certainly be interested if it delivered. Dont care that much about badges having owned a Skoda and received all the associated abuse that entailed.
err you what? Subaru are not the Skoda of Japan lol. Subaru are one of the great engineering companies in the automotive world with a rich history & heritage. Skoda were bang average brand that build cars with a hammer, now a recycling factory of VW tat.
Agree with pricing though, a lot of cars are overpriced, that includes those you think should be priced higher simply because they have a more kudos badge, even though the car is not much better than one that isn't.
The Kia will struggle to sell much at 50k, especially in UK where badge snobbery is what makes the decision. In America I expect it will do much better.
The American market sees cars differently, Brits are shallow, there is much less badge snobbery and stereotypes attached to cars, which is why the Japanese brands have been so successful and were well received when they first entered the US markets, despite negative feelings towards Japanese people.
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Regardless of the car, this paragraph is worrying:
I'm guessing that applies to the European market as well? I seem to see more and more 4x4/SUV/Crossovers now and they usually look rubbish.
I'm guessing that applies to the European market as well? I seem to see more and more 4x4/SUV/Crossovers now and they usually look rubbish.
If that's the case why is the Kia K900 selling so badly?
Probably due to the fact that it's not a great product & the overall package is poor. Not every model is going to be a hot seller.
Aye, D segment is dying, so many have manufacturers have stopped selling in this segment in European markets.
I'm not sure if Americans are any less shallow and picky - isn't that the reason Japanese brands had to invent the whole "premium" brand masquerade - the Acuras, Lexus', Inifinities and so on because no yank would spend $$,$$$ on a Honda, Toyota or Nissan?
Seems odd then that it was only in this generation of the A3 (8V/MLB Platform) that VAG started making a Saloon.
They are a lot less picky (doesn't mean they arent completely), which is why the Jap brands tend do well over there including these 'premium' brand which sell very well in US but not so much in Europe who prefer traditional German brands.
Invention of sub brands also has a lot to do with product differentiation and marketing. You can't really sell 'top end premium' cars with the same product range and dealership/showroom experience as say a cheap tinny supermini.
There's the CLA too. Both are niche products though, German marques for the last decade or so have been filling up every niche segment there is. Saloon's aren't completely dead anyway, the 3 series and A4 both are still very popular albeit due to fleet market. But others have been killed off in the D segment from the likes of Renault, Honda, Citroen, Toyota, Nissan etc. All of those also had prices that near enough came close to your BMW's & Mercs.
Saloons aren't dead yet, but it seems like most people who buy privately tend to opt for hatchbacks or crossovers, which has killed of some models due to lack of demand.
Too Gear have driven it at the Ring, and they liked it.
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/stinger/first-drive
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/stinger/first-drive
You know what they say though. A sport car isn't a proper sports car if there is a diesel in the lineup 
It's also way too heavy by the looks of it. 1,730kg
That's like....1 GT86 plus 1/3 of an Elise. 255bhp isn't going to go far in that.
It's also way too heavy by the looks of it. 1,730kg
That's like....1 GT86 plus 1/3 of an Elise. 255bhp isn't going to go far in that.
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To counter that argument the only benefits of a (non performance) saloon is they are great mile munchers, that's about it. There's a reason they're called rep mobiles. Other than the extra cost crossovers have a lot of positives for those that actually need more than two seats regularly, or want a more practical vehicle. If you don't need more than two seats then a hatchback is fine for most instead.
Its 365bhp isn't it? 0-60 under 5 seconds.It's also way too heavy by the looks of it. 1,730kg
Not too bad for a big car.
But ain't nobody in the UK going to pay 40k for a Kia. People are snobs in the UK and just too brainwashed now with only wanting Merc, Audi, BMW, or VW when it comes to anything over average price.