2019 NFL Season Thread

I couldn't quite work out how much was bad Rams play and how much was freaking awesome Steelers D, seriously that Steelers D is scary gene you watch and Fitzpatrick and Bush are seemingly getting better each week.

I don't like the Steelers but it is a shame Ben is injured as they would be fascinating in the play offs with such a good D.

How you can go a game and not hit Cupp with a single connection though.... That's bad.
 
It's not really on Jimmy G, he was 24 of 26 and most QB's throw an interception. He isn't Wilson level elite but he's an above average starter who is helping the the win games.

He should have connected on the last play in OT mind...

It was just a crazy game, when you had the ball why Shanahan felt the need to launch pass after pass rather than running a normal play and edging closer to FG range is beyond me, your oline play didn't help but you had injuries there. No Kittle, Sander off injured early and no Gould and you only just lost. A loss is frustrating but still a lot going for this team.
 
Rudolph trying to be a big guy but picked the wrong fight, he tried to rip off Garrett's mask and failed then came back for more after his lineman stopped the fight and got handled like the punk he is. Bad player playing bad and taking it out on others.

That doesn't excuse Garrett, he needs a ban as does the Steelers 53 for trying to stamp on Garrett's head I just like seeing Rudolph trying, and failing, to be alpha. Such a bad player. :D
 
Can you buy proper stitched NFL jerseys from the EU NFL shop, the site is terrible in terms of working out what is real and what is just printed on.

After a new real jersey jor myself and one for my lad, last one I got a mate actually bought it for me from the US and brought it home.
 
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Rudolph tried to pull off Garrett's helmet (failed) and then charged at him looking for round two (and failed again) there's talk he tried to knacker shot him as well which was when Garrett really lost it but it's hard to tell on any video.

Garrett's hit was most probably late but at every stage thereafter Rudolph went looking for it, amusingly he found it right on his bonce.

Not excusing Garrett, he deserves a ban, but so does Rudolph for a game for making it happen. Saying that the NFL probably haven't banned him as it's a much harsher punishment on the Steelers having to let him QB your team into oblivion.
 
AndyCr15 said:
Intent or aggression may have been there, but he actually did very little...

You'd be quite aggressive too if you'd played a terrible game, your team was losing then some guy is illegally physically abusing you. (As with others, not excusing, but as I say, he didn't actually do much)
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Physically abusing?
 
A late tackle is illegally physically abusing someone now :o :D let's just cancel the NFL today them because this sort of 'abuse' is rife, come on, really?

This topic has turned people into such drama queens, a helmet is now a weapon, a late tackle is now physical abuse. People need to get a grip of themselves.
 
AndyCr15 said:
Somehow this wasn't showing to me yesterday, very odd.

An illegal football move, yes. Which was what caused the reaction from Rudolph, which wasn't really much and tbh probably wouldn't even cause a flag if it just ended there. 'Garret only swung because he came after him...' yes, after Garrett had violently dragged Rudolph about by the facemask to the point the helmet actually came off. You guys are talking like they did the same thing to each other. Rudolph, pulled at Garrett's helmet a bit with the palm of his hand, in the midst of a scuffle. Garrett picked Rudolph up by the face cage and repeatedly pulled at it until it came off. Me and the league are together apparently. Rudolph's reaction, whilst not correct, wasn't THAT bad and wasn't really dangerous. Garrett's was both bad and dangerous.

What damage could have been done dragging Rudolph by the facemask? Probably very bad. Aside helmet to helmet, bad facemask penalties are some of the scariest looking things in the game. What could have been done if he connected with the helmet to Rudolph's skull? Probably very bad.

What could Rudolph have done pulling at the back of his helmet with his palm while they were wrestling on the ground? I can't think anything that bad could have happened.
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You are imagining worst case from Garrett dragging at his helemt, but ignoring worst case of Rudolph dragging it his. To use your own dramatic wording "probably something very bad"

Same as people praising the lineman (forget his name) for coming to help Rudolph, again people imagining worst case on Garrett actions but are seemingly cool with someone punching another player and trying to then stamp on his head.

I really don't understand people being cool with Rudolph in this. Again not excusing Garrett, but Rudolph acted like a petty little **** head because he sucks and tried to get a bit of Garrett, twice, unfortunately he picked a huge bloke to try and fight with. Again, not excusing Garrett.

Holding Rudolph and the 53 lineman accountable for their actions does not exonerate Garrett, people need to recognise that.
 
I agree with you in that what Garrett did was way out of proportion and he needs punished, as I say I'm not for a second trying to defend that tool who was ruined what was looking like a good season (for him personally, Browns suck)

I'm just a little shocked at how people seem to be ignoring the fact that Rudolph incited it all and if he hadn't over reacted to Garrets (admittedly slightly late) hit this would never have happened. Every week QB's get hit late and if they reached as Rudolph did then this sort of idiocy would happen most weeks, but all QB's realise it's a mostly unfortunate, sometimes a little naughty, bit of the game and you have to grin and bear it and hope the NFL sanctions them.

Again, Garrett = mega douche, I just don't think him being a dick excuses the fact this would never have occurred if Rudolph wasn't a petulant little PoS. You are right I have something against Rudolph, that he's a straight up horrible QB, that doesn't mean I think he deserves this. I do however think though that his little petty and petulant side also needs punished, a side we hadn't seen before. Think to the start of all this, if he hadn't started it with Garrett this would never have happened, if he hadn't have come for seconds this would never have happened. He incited it all. (One last time though, this doesn't excuse and I'm not defending Garrett)

Not looking for an arguement on this, just surprised at the free pass :p
 
AndyCr15 said:
I don't know if even agree he incited it all. I would say that's a little more grey. Maybe not totally relevant, but have you ever played? It's easy to say don't react when someone does something illegal that might hurt and your supposed to just ignore it. It's a little like you're walking down the street and some bloke just pushes you over. You should ignore it, or maybe find a policeman, but most would react in the instance. Not a perfect similarly, I know. These guys are professionals and should be better at turning the other cheek.

I would argue we do see players every week getting angry and reacting to someone doing something they shouldn't. We often hear about the person reacting is the one that gets the flag, which is why I think Rudolph didn't do too much different than others have in a similar situation.
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Played at uni for 2 seasons. Season and a half at WR and half a season at FS so been on the giving and receiving end of things, been in a few scraps on the field only one getting out of control and, funnily enough, that was a D lineman who couldn't take a hit (after a picking up a fumble)

Most get on with it or at the most whine to a ref.

Anyhow, as you said earlier I don't think we will agree here so not worth arguing over :p
 
In the 100tg year the hundredth team to be 20 down at the half are the first one to upset the odds.

It was actually a decent evening for close games, Niners game, Cowboys and the Vikings were all pretty exciting.

@mp260767 at least Gurley got some running done.
 
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