Poll: 2021/22 Premier League Sack Race
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I don't know how I feel about that. Ole's style isn't deliberate enough for Villa, especially at the moment. I think it's unlikely but it's anyone's guess at this stage. They'd have to pay Rangers a kings ransom to get Gerrard to leave and that's only if he wants to come which seems unlikely given what he's said in the past. Hjulmand I wouldn't mind I suppose, but Lampard would have me cramping up for weeks, Hassenhutl equally so.
We have the financial clout and ambition to attract almost anyone, but it's a bit of a poison chalice at the best of times so I wouldn't blame any of them for declining.
It's just all so irritating. Smith was the most stable manager we've had since O'Leary and I think if we'd have had the patience he would have done us right.
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Sorry, my sarcasm was clearly a bit lacking. No club in the league would hire Ole right now. Certainly not any club that has a shred of ambition. When Ole is fired he will go back to managing a budget team in a poor league.
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Aha, clearly I only spotted it in the latter part of the sentence
If I'm honest though I think plenty of clubs including Villa would gladly have him.
Genuinely interested to know what you think would make a club hire Ole? At no point in his time at United has anyone suggested that he has even been getting "par" from his players and at a smaller club with less resources you have to make your team more than the sum of its parts.
I think having too many resources to flex with is exactly Uniteds problem. It's literally a case of an embarrassment of riches at this point and Ole has been completely swamped by that. I'll absolutely admit that he's been poor this season but he's not a bad manager generally speaking. I think being at a club where he'll need to overcome some financial limitations would do him very well given what's happened.
Rangers deny any approach from Villa. I'd be quite annoyed if we managed to pick him up now. The idea that we sacked off Smith without even having approached the club of his preferred replacement is poor fair indeed, regardless of how some fans may have felt.
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Smith out Gerrard in seems dumb to me but I guess time will tell.
Agreed. Said previously that I thought Smith should have been given more time but they've been looking for a bad run of form to oust him for a while I think.
The appointment COULD be bad either way. Either his inexperience will drag us into a relegation battle or he'll do reasonably well and move on in 2 years. Some Villa fans are kidding themselves if they think we're not considered a stepping stone club (at this point in time at least).
I think he's got the right attitude though. Any manager with a lick of sense can see that we desperately need to sort out our midfield and he seems more then capable of doing that.
We're one of those odd middle of the road clubs that don't have the reputational clout to attract the big names yet offer an 'exciting' enough opportunity for managers who've shown a little promise and would like to attempt to climb another rung.
Very irritating. For years we wanted a bit of stability from a decent appointment and we very much had it in Smith. Everyone always points at the fact that he only built the team around Grealish as though it where a bad thing. Thats just good management and it was always going to take us a season to realign things.
Whoever we appoint I'll get behind but we need to stop deluding ourselves and look for stability first, aspiration second. The idea that we where going to chase European football this season... madness from the off.
Very irritating. For years we wanted a bit of stability from a decent appointment and we very much had it in Smith. Everyone always points at the fact that he only built the team around Grealish as though it where a bad thing. Thats just good management and it was always going to take us a season to realign things.
Whoever we appoint I'll get behind but we need to stop deluding ourselves and look for stability first, aspiration second. The idea that we where going to chase European football this season... madness from the off.
Precisely. He's got as much to loose as anyone if he decides to come. It'll be a bit of trial by fire this side of January but if he can come out of it with just 5 or 6 points he'll have won a lot of fans over.
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I still do not understand it really. Managers these days get one chance and that's it. Lampard for example is finished already. Gary Neville made a huge mistake going to Valencia etc. Gerrard should at least wait until the summer where he can do his own pre-season and prepare correctly.
I think in an ideal scenario he'd have done just that, but he's gambled on it still being fairly early on in the season with a transfer window still to come with a club that's got genuine financial clout. I doubt the opportunities where going to get much better then that in PL at the moment.
Lampard was a bizarre appointment from the Chelsea board at the time, he was arguably failing at Derby and then jumped in to the frying pan. He was massively out of his depth. Gerrard would appear to be going a better route, taking over a poor Ranger's side and now going to Villa. Little steps.
Lampard will probably get another job somewhere, he'd be crazy to go to a premier League team tho, he should cut his teeth on a lower league side and do a decent job 1st.
Gerrard's appointment is a strange one, he's taken over a Villa side who showed last season without Grealish they were relegation fodder, they sold Grealish this summer and as a consequence are struggling so get rid of Smith who was doing a decent job all things considered.
It may work out for him but I would've at least seen out this season at Rangers if it had been me (probably why I'm not manager material despite having the same limited abilities as Ole it would seem
), wonder how long they will give him if nothing improves significantly
It may work out for him but I would've at least seen out this season at Rangers if it had been me (probably why I'm not manager material despite having the same limited abilities as Ole it would seem
), wonder how long they will give him if nothing improves significantlyWell Gerrard is confirmed.
I think he'll do well, a lot of other factors to weigh in though. Villas owners also own the Milliwauke Bucks right? They recently won their first title in 50 years after injecting into the team and that's took approx 6 years. He's got a great plan for villa too, let's see if Gerrard is the star of it!
I think he'll do well, a lot of other factors to weigh in though. Villas owners also own the Milliwauke Bucks right? They recently won their first title in 50 years after injecting into the team and that's took approx 6 years. He's got a great plan for villa too, let's see if Gerrard is the star of it!