Poll: 2021/22 Premier League Sack Race
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No surprise there. His predecessors had better records, that wasnt enough for the owners. There's no patience anymore which is sad,a manager is judged by these people in the short term only, never mind his CV and trophies won. Also the players know that too if they want rid of a disciplinarian. They also know if a club goes down they'll have a fire sale so its on the phone to their agent to find another club.
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I'm still staggered that Leicester sacked Ranieri not even a year after he led them to the most staggering of Premier League victories.
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I'm not they were terrible after that. Can't keep someone just because of history if the present is that bad.
Watford go through an insane number of managers though, ridiculous.
It was Pearson's groundwork and Ranieiri was losing grip of a few things the more he tinkered with the blueprint. What amazed me more was selling Kante just as you go into the Champions League. They did well and got to what quarter finals? I do think they could have gone further had they kept him for one more season.
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Hodgson being touted for Watford by SSN.
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Kante had £20M clause in his contract, however Chelsea had to pay £32m becuase Shanghai SIPG also bid on Kante.
In hindsight if Ranieri quit after winning the league, there would be a status of him outside the King Power Stadium.
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We offered Kante a new contract months before, he was never going to stay with us.
We pulled Chelsea's pants down afterwards, when we offloaded Drinkwater to them for £35m
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The recent entries on the list of Watford managers are absolutely barking. How can they expect anyone to succeed when they're given so little time?
I thought DDw forced the move? Said he wanted to win trophies and couldn't do that at Leicester? Not sure which ones he was referring to? Best bench warmer? Worst DUI? Biggest career implosion and fade to obscurity? Poor chap I feel for him in some ways as he wasn't a bad player but apparently was a bit... how do you put it? They said he needed a firm hand in the management side to keep him focused on the bigger picture.We offered Kante a new contract months before, he was never going to stay with us.
We pulled Chelsea's pants down afterwards, when we offloaded Drinkwater to them for £35m
A pub debate that I'll bring into here too: would the PL be better or worse if managers could only be changed at the end of the season, or during transfer windows similar to players? It would stop this sort of Watford merry-go-round and actually focus clubs on who they're appointing and why. It could also help reduce club payouts for part term contract severence packages.
It would also mean all clubs play each other under the same management. Those who got to play spurs under NES or Villa pre Gerrard had an easier time of it than those who played them more recently. I don't think that's entirely fair in some ways.
It would also mean all clubs play each other under the same management. Those who got to play spurs under NES or Villa pre Gerrard had an easier time of it than those who played them more recently. I don't think that's entirely fair in some ways.
I don't feel it would make that much of a difference. Clubs not willing to give managers a chance beyond a season could still pinch them off in the summer and having it happen during each TW wouldn't be dissimilar to how it is already.
I don't like the fact that managers aren't given the space or time to breed a playing philosophy into a club, but I think too much is made of that sometimes. It seems rare these days that it takes longer then a season for a manager to implement a style and have it stick. PL clubs can't afford to waste a year hovering around the relegation zone playing will they won't they. Even with a decent pedigree, if you drop there's a good chance you'll be there for a while, just look at Villa. Dean Smith will always have my respect and at the time pressure was being put on him to walk I was backing him to the hilt, but in retrospect we needed points. That's all it's ever about.
I don't like the fact that managers aren't given the space or time to breed a playing philosophy into a club, but I think too much is made of that sometimes. It seems rare these days that it takes longer then a season for a manager to implement a style and have it stick. PL clubs can't afford to waste a year hovering around the relegation zone playing will they won't they. Even with a decent pedigree, if you drop there's a good chance you'll be there for a while, just look at Villa. Dean Smith will always have my respect and at the time pressure was being put on him to walk I was backing him to the hilt, but in retrospect we needed points. That's all it's ever about.
By limiting it to the transfer window end every team has played each other in that half of the season. By limiting it to the summer only the whole season has been played.
It's fairer than some teams getting easy points in that period and others having a battle because the management changes. If players can only move around at certain times why isn't it the same for the coaching staff and leadership?
It's fairer than some teams getting easy points in that period and others having a battle because the management changes. If players can only move around at certain times why isn't it the same for the coaching staff and leadership?
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Would be an awful idea. Imagine if you had a player who was awful, no one wanted to play with him but you had to play him every game of the season. Thats essentially what you are suggesting with the manager being unable to be replaced. There is huge money at stake and the manager is arguably the most important person on the front line for the club.
Its not fair though is it. Teams go through good and bad patches of form. Would you complain if you played Chelsea early in the season when they were flying high, didn't play them during this downturn for them but then had to play them again near the end of the season if their form returns?
Forcing a club to stick with a manager that has lost the dressing room or appoint a temporary interim from within the club would have almost 0 benefits and so many issues.