2022 mini-budget discussion

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I'm a Nurse on about 28k as well. Not really sure what to make of these tax cuts, just feel that tax cuts don't feel right at the moment? I'm not spending any money on anything because of fuel and energy prices, a saving on my national insurance isn't going to change that. Why have they not taxed the energy companies more? Or have they already?
 
I mean, statistically it's true whether you believe it or not, otherwise why don't we just set the tax threshold at 90% above £150k? Everyone will just keep working the same hours and aspiring to do higher paid roles even though they'll only take home marginally more?

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90%+ top marginal tax rates are not historically uncommon.

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And it's worth noting that as that top marginal tax rate has decreased from 90%+ down to what it is today, GDP growth has trended downwards alongside it.

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Former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers blasted the economic policies being adopted by newly installed UK Prime Minister Liz Truss, saying they’re creating the circumstances for the pound to sink past parity with the US dollar.

“It makes me very sorry to say, but I think the UK is behaving a bit like an emerging market turning itself into a submerging market,” Summers told Bloomberg Television’s “Wall Street Week” with David Westin. “Between Brexit, how far the Bank of England got behind the curve and now these fiscal policies, I think Britain will be remembered for having pursuing the worst macroeconomic policies of any major country in a long time.”
 
@Tony Edwards

It is suicidal Tony because we would retaliate, in cases where there isn't absolute certainty about our nuclear posture then perhaps it's a gamble he would be willing to take.
 
Why have they not taxed the energy companies more? Or have they already?

Because the energy companies made a large donation to both the Tory Party fund and Lizz Truss's Leadership Campaign. It's pure, naked corruption.




His words would make that eventually just a little more likely, also make conventional war just a little more likely if those like Putin think you are weak.

Yes... scrapping nuclear weapons obviously makes a nuclear war more likely. With over 200+ countries around the world not having them, it's a wonder how we're not all radioactive glass already!
 
I know its the Daily Mail but this is GD...


The Chief Secretary to the Treasury was celebrating 'sterling strengthening' after the pound spiked as Kwasi Kwarteng announced tax cuts - only for it to slump to a new record low minutes later.

At 10.17am, Chris Philp tweeted 'Great to see sterling strengthening on the back of the new UK Growth plan' accompanied with a graph showing the brief spike at 10am.

But by 10.44am, the pound slumped to a fresh 37-year low as the Chancellor unveiled tens of billions of pounds of tax cuts and spending.

Equity markets were also particularly downbeat, with the FTSE 100 plunging to its lowest in two months.

Sterling declined by as much as 0.89 per cent to 1.115 US dollars as Kwasi Kwarteng spoke to Parliament at 9.30am on Friday.

It has since stabilised at around 1.119 dollars, but this remains below the previous 37-year low struck earlier this week after concerns over surging interest rates hit the currency.

Idiots!
 
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Yes... scrapping nuclear weapons obviously makes a nuclear war more likely. With over 200+ countries around the world not having them, it's a wonder how we're not all radioactive glass already!

Scrapping our nuclear weapons while countries like Russia, see current events, maintain their capability only makes more room for those like Putin to push their agenda on the world, potentially results in an increase in conventional war we would be involved with due to the lesser consequences, potentially increases the chances of nuclear weapons used against countries which can't fight back.

MAD tends to discourage events leading to nuclear war by and large.

EDIT: Also might be a bit different story if we didn't have a legacy as we do as a country - that can't be undone any more than the invention of nuclear weapons can.
 
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Can someone explain to me the new stamp duty rule?

I’m in the process of purchasing 2nd property for £230k (Main residence)

Current property to be rented out once everything is complete. I purchased the house from the council for £62k 6 years ago. Currently valued at £115k

As it stands £8,600 is stamp duty I need to pay. With new rules, will I be paying less?
 
Yes, it's terrible that Corbyn wasn't prepared to instigate a nuclear war, end all life on earth and turn the entire planet into a uninhabitable toxic wasteland.

What a monster!
Even if you wouldn't actually use nuclear weapons under any circumstances you can't actually say that - reduces their deterrent / influence value to 0, which is the whole reason for having them (at least it's the UK's reason for having them).

Even if his letters of last resort said 'surrender to the aggressor at the earliest opportunity' he should still at least have said that if the UK or NATO ally was nuked or the UK was at risk of being totally conquered by conventional forces that he would lauch the missiles, or something similar.

He wasn't just asked about 'instigating' a nuclear war, it was about launching them under any circumstances, and he danced around the question strongly implying he wouldn't.
 
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Can someone explain to me the new stamp duty rule?

I’m in the process of purchasing 2nd property for £230k (Main residence)

Current property to be rented out once everything is complete. I purchased the house from the council for £62k 6 years ago. Currently valued at £115k

As it stands £8,600 is stamp duty I need to pay. With new rules, will I be paying less?
I wouldn't come in here flaunting your wealth - the pitch forks and froth will be after you lol..
 
So you think its disgusting but are going to keep the money and put in your mortgage rather than help out the less fortunate... right...

Myself and the wife already donate to several charities, and contribute to the local foodbank through our shopping at Tesco's every week, and complete 5 community support days each year through a workplace scheme.

The point I am making, is that if you give financially well off individuals a tax break, they are unlikely to feed it back into the economy, which means you fail to promote growth. The entire premise of these tax cuts is apparently to drive economic growth. Giving me a £1k+ NI break doesn't mean I go out and buy the latest iPhone, or an OLED TV or expensive hobby equipment, as I have those things already. I plough all of that extra cash into my mortgage while still on a fixed term to reduce the interest rate rise I'll be hit with in 2 years time. So the aim of the tax cuts won't be met.

The bit I think is disgusting is that the apparent solution to the hardship being suffered by a large proportion of the country, only due to get worse, is to give the well off a tax break, to have the taxpayer fund the dividends of BP\Shell shareholders (energy cap rather than windfall tax), run up national debt for future tax payers, and neglect any infrastructure investment which actually would improve economic growth.

Someone on minimum wage who can't pay their energy bills, or is about to be hit with a mortgage interest rate rise gets very little support. I, who need zero support whatsoever, get plenty. It's disgusting.
 
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Myself and the wife already donate to several charities, and contribute to the local foodbank through our shopping at Tesco's every week, and complete 5 community support days each year through a workplace scheme.

The point I am making, is that if you give financially well off individuals a tax break, they are unlikely to feed it back into the economy, which means you fail to promote growth. The entire premise of these tax cuts is apparently to drive economic growth. Giving me a £1k+ NI break doesn't mean I go out and buy the latest iPhone, or an OLED TV or expensive hobby equipment, as I have those things already. I plough all of that extra cash into my mortgage while still on a fixed term to reduce the interest rate rise I'll be hit with in 2 years time. So the aim of the tax cuts won't be met.

The bit I think is disgusting is that the apparent solution to the hardship being suffered by a large proportion of the country, only due to get worse, is to give the well off a tax break, to have the taxpayer fund the dividends of BP\Shell shareholders (energy cap rather than windfall tax), run up national debt for future tax payers, and neglect any infrastructure investment which actually would improve economic growth.

Someone on minimum wage who can't pay their energy bills, or is about to be hit with a mortgage interest rate rise gets very little support. I, who need zero support whatsover, get plenty. It's disgusting.

You cant be responsible for what others do but you can be responsible for yourself so increase your charitable contributions accordingly then at least you won't be 'disgusted' with yourself.

As for whether this promotes growth come back in 6 months and see..

Tax cuts will only ever benefit tax payers.
 
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