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2080ti cards failing ?

Nasher said:
Yes but on Earth a vapour chamber needs to allow the heat to rise away from the components.
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Pretty sure the cooler on my card is a vapour chamber as well, they just used a larger version of it on the TI-FE.

I honestly think some of these issues are down to the "sealed" design, the far end of the card is all metal so the air can;t escape that end, the only escape routes it has are basically 4 slats at the bottom and top which woulds have been bigger but nvidia chose to taper the metal in over the top of it.

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I mean look at the top of the card, it only really has a small area at one side that's fully open, then you have the tapered metal section for the geforce logo, then the other side is an even smaller vent area before the pcie power connectors. The bottom has a mirrored design without the pcie connectors obviously.


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Then you have this end cap which is totally sealed off, had they left that open it would be better for air to escape. Yeah it looks snazzy but it probably lost a lot of efficiency with having those tapered areas and the end cap totally sealed.
 
But when you install the card, the vapour chamber is going to be above the heatsink. It might not work properly like that and may just be trapping heat.
 
Gerard said:
You mean with the card installed into a regular pc setup with the fans facing downwards?
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Yea all GPUs have this problem really, but they don't have vapour chambers between the chip and heatsink :p

Doogles said:
You'd have though nVidia would've tested these before shipping them, this is going to cost them with RMA's.
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You would like to think so, but it's 2018 and people are dumb now.
 
Nasher said:
Yea all GPUs have this problem really, but they don't have vapour chambers between the chip and heatsink :p



You would like to think so, but it's 2018 and people are dumb now.
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I don't think this card has an actual heatsink, afaik its just one large vapour chamber covering the entire surface of the card.

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Think im getting my p's and q's mixed up, i always thought a vapour chamber was an integrated unit with fins built into it. Seems its a chamber that's built onto a heatsink so its going from chip, to chamber, to heatsink.
 
The fins are moulded to it, but it looks like there is no airflow across the surface of the card itself.

This guy took one apart, looks pretty ridiculous actually. Around 50 screws to remove the cooler lol


No wonder they are so expensive, most of the money probably went in to screwing it together...
 
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Nasher said:
The fins are moulded to it, but it looks like there is no airflow across the surface of the card itself.

This guy took one apart, looks pretty ridiculous actually. Around 50 screws to remove the cooler lol


No wonder they are so expensive, most of the money probably went in to screwing it together...
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He couldn’t remove the fan plate :p
 
Nasher said:
The fins are moulded to it, but it looks like there is no airflow across the surface of the card itself.

This guy took one apart, looks pretty ridiculous actually. Around 50 screws to remove the cooler lol


No wonder they are so expensive, most of the money probably went in to screwing it together...
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The disassembly on FE cards is irritating, little tiny screws that screw into other little bolt type screws. Tighten them too much and they snap, they're so bloody small losing them is incredibly easy, you'd think it was a bit of dirt and not a screw at all. Whereas most of their partner cards you can have the heatsink off in under 10 screws.

It's honestly like taking apart an apple laptop, numerous multi sized screws just to make it awkward, not out of necessity.
 
easyrider said:
He couldn’t remove the fan plate :p
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He got it off in a second vid, had to use a heatgun to remove glue holding that black plate on. There's only a fan controller under it iirc. Considering there's over 50+ screws on the card i don't see why they didn't just screw that down instead of glueing it down.
 
easyrider said:
It’s such an inefficient design in terms of its complexity...it’s like a prototype !
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It's not too much more extravagant than the titan x in terms of screws really, but it is a dumb amount of screws that could easily be halved and still have a quality feel to it. Even the way the backplate is on with little riser screw things that have other little tiny screws that screw into them.

It really does smack of them "doing an apple" (form over function), even their keynotes with Jensen putting so much emphasis on words with S with that little whistling sound is starting to remind me of apple.
 
Nasher said:
The fins are moulded to it, but it looks like there is no airflow across the surface of the card itself.

This guy took one apart, looks pretty ridiculous actually. Around 50 screws to remove the cooler lol


No wonder they are so expensive, most of the money probably went in to screwing it together...
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Looks like it was built by Apple lol.
 
Gerard said:
Better to contact Nvidia directly and find out, someone on hardocp got a response from their CS saying as long as the PCB isn't damaged it was fine. But he was based in America and their policies likely differ to here.
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My 2080 Ti is DOA - I get a flash of a display at POST for a split second then the signal to the display port seems to terminate / fail and the monitor screen goes black / into power save mode and says no signal detected. My system throws up a bunch of ASUS Q-Codes on the motherboard LED and either hangs or reboots with different Q-Codes...

Am so mad right now. Gonna try to get some sleep and put my old card back in tomorrow.

Draining my loop and cutting new tubes (soft) is a hassle.

Do I call Nvidia and ask about whether or not I voided my warranty by installing a Waterblock, or just put the Nvidia Heatsink assembly back on and say nothing to them other than I want a refund?

BTW I've been watercooling systems for years and never had this happen to me before, I'm quite happy I didn't nuke the card at any stage.

Brilliant, just brilliant...
 
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