21/7 Bomb Ploters Guilty!

Monkey Puzzle · 9 Jul 2007 at 17:27

Good stuff. Do they just go in with other attempted murderers etc? I can't imagine that'll be much fun if they do - a world of pain.

Tru · 9 Jul 2007 at 17:38

Ghosteh said:
Goodo

Sadly there's nothing goodo about it. For every 4 we find guilty there are another 8 waiting to try again. The war on terrorism is as phoney and pointless as the war on drugs.

Ghosteh · 9 Jul 2007 at 17:42

Tru said:
Sadly there's nothing goodo about it. For every 4 we find guilty there are another 8 waiting to try again. The war on terrorism is as phoney and pointless as the war on drugs.

I would still say its good that these 4(hopefully 6) people are locked up because if they failed once, I'm sure it would mean they would go out and do it again if they weren't imprisoned. I do agree that its a futile effort, but as Tescos says, "Every Little Helps" lol

iCraig · 9 Jul 2007 at 17:42

Better in a cell than out on the streets though.

scorza · 9 Jul 2007 at 18:42

The sad thing is, some will believe this verdict is a "fit up" and it will help radicalize more Muslim youths

SexyGreyFox · 9 Jul 2007 at 18:52

sr4470 said:
Another bunch of patsies. /snore

I agree - totally innocent.

HAz · 9 Jul 2007 at 19:05

Death would be too good for them

Monkey Puzzle · 9 Jul 2007 at 19:12

I agree - totally innocent.

Are you serious?

Glaucus · 9 Jul 2007 at 19:17

Good but there sentences wont be long enough. They hate the uk know, you think there going to change there opinions serving 26 years behind bars?

They should be locked up for life.

No point in death penalty. it takes decades to kill some one. Costs more to the tax payer than keeping them in jail till they die. Then you have the whole moral thing and it's not a punishment as they think there getting 72 virgins.

VIRII · 9 Jul 2007 at 20:05

sr4470 said:
I'm not 100% sure, I read reports of detonators setting off the flour etc, but what is clear is a) Nobody was hurt and b) There were no actual explosives present.

Nobody was hurt because they lacked skill in making explosives, particularly peroxide based explosives, and also knowledge in the corect handling procedures.
It was sheer fortune that nobody was hurt.

Do you seriously believe that they filled backpacks with flour and merely pretended to be suicide bombers?

Glaucus · 9 Jul 2007 at 20:07

They deffinatly thought they had live bombs, the qaunties although not perfect, would still of exploded. But like most complicated compounds they bio-degrade very rapidly. They simply didn't use the explosives fast enough.

Judge Mortis · 9 Jul 2007 at 20:57

Lets hope the punishment is just ... I would guess no less than 20 years. As for killing them, I would not agree ..... as a potential source if intel they are too valuable.

By killing, I do mean via state capital punishment.

DJ XS · 9 Jul 2007 at 22:01

furnace said:
Jury of 9 women, 3 men... explains why its taken so long

I hope they get good length sentances

haha - bit harsh!

VIRII · 9 Jul 2007 at 22:06

Judge Mortis said:
As for killing them, I would not agree ..... as a potential source if intel they are too valuable.

I'm not sure "intelligence" is something they had much of.

Stolly · 9 Jul 2007 at 23:55

sr4470 said:
I'm not 100% sure, I read reports of detonators setting off the flour etc, but what is clear is a) Nobody was hurt and b) There were no actual explosives present.

Some other things that are clear

A) They went intending to kill

B) They filled backpacks with what they intended to be explosive material

C) One of them left a suicide note

D) One of them turned and placed his bomb nearer a mother and small child before attempting detonation, and was filmed on CCTV doing this.

A simple misunderstood protest huh ? Only a complete fool would believe such a story.

Judge Mortis · 10 Jul 2007 at 00:01

VIRII said:
I'm not sure "intelligence" is something they had much of.

A fair comment.

It is evident though that they received training and technicals from somewhere and someone ......

Trusty · 10 Jul 2007 at 01:32

Unfortunatley terrorism is a UK time bomb waiting to happen for a lot of places. An theres not much we can do about it really!

Mephisto · 10 Jul 2007 at 01:38

naffa said:
But also, how can you justify punishing someone with death because they've killed someone else? Surely that brings the punisher down to the level of the criminal?

So you're basically saying killing an innocent person is the same as killing a murderer, whom killed an innocent person?

Sleepy · 10 Jul 2007 at 10:33

Mephisto said:
So you're basically saying killing an innocent person is the same as killing a murderer, whom killed an innocent person?

Yes if you believe the morality derives from the very act itself and not the worthiness or lack of the victim.

Trusty · 10 Jul 2007 at 12:10

Sleepy said:
Yes if you believe the morality derives from the very act itself and not the worthiness or lack of the victim.

Very true, and at the end of the day a revenge killing is lowering themselve to the same pathetic person that murdered the innocent person. Its human instinct tho to want do something revengeful but society is better than that!