***21.9 Ultrawide Thread***

Try going to the monitor OSD and adjusting response time, "high" has the fastest response time but introduces inverse ghosting, personally it looks noticeably better to me than "medium" (no inverse ghosting) though.

And the spec sheet for monitors is a joke, just lies and false advertising, better to go with tftcentral or pcmonitors.info for info on response time/motion blur.
 
I noticed a big difference in image quality between HDMI and displayport on my 29um65:

Nexus18 said:
Another question badass regarding me noticing banding on my 29um65:

Well this is interesting, decided to try a different cable (replaced my display port cable with the HDMI cable) and:

- the banding seems to be a lot better, definitely not as noticeable
- on the white saturation test, 253 used to be a lot more visible when using the display port cable and I can't even see 254 now where as with the display port cable, I could just about make it out....

What gives?! :confused:
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Panos said:
On that I agree. And I have no issue for the £1000 price, if is perfect with 0 dead pixels.
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Still a rip off imo especially when you look at how much the LG 4k OLED 55" TVs cost, I would much rather pay a bit more and have that over any IPS/VA/TN g/free sync monitor.
 
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As above, OLED is SUPERIOR to any LCD display out there when it comes to motion clarity.

The only problem with OLED TVs (and all TVs for that matter) is the input lag, iirc, the OLED TVs have about 20-30ms of input lag, fine for single players but not MP FPS.

I would much rather have OLED over a LCD screen with g/free sync any day of the week, it is in another league when it comes to image quality and quite frankly makes LCD tech look absolute **** in comparison.
 
Spuddy said:
Any news of other manufacturers joining the 21:9 Gsync market?

Need some competition to drive prices down..
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Nothing that I am aware of...

And it is very unlikely that we will see anything else other than from acer and asus given that monitor manufacturers have to change the design of their monitors in terms of dimensions etc. in order to integrate the gsync module, hence why it still only seems to be acer and asus heavily investing in gsync:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3129...ia-g-sync-on-monitor-selection-and-price.html
 
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They do, it is called a fury x :p

But yeah, hopefully vega won't disappoint.... It is only a matter of time until nvidia support adaptive sync anyway.
 
Yup, they will have to at some point, intel will be supporting it as well as all the new upcoming TVs + consoles and they are getting their ass handed to them for sheer selection now despite gsync being out for over a year longer than adaptive/free sync:

2015 G-Sync monitors: 8 IPS, 3 TN, 1 VA
2016 G-Sync monitors: 3 IPS, 5 TN, 6 VA

2015 FreeSync monitors: 13 IPS, 15 TN, 2 VA
2016 FreeSync monitors: 32 IPS, 17 TN, 13 VA
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Also, they are already using it for their laptops.

+ Peterson did say this:

never say never
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I don't think they will ever abandon gsync module completely but I can see it becoming a niche for the "premium" gaming monitors.
 
Spuddy said:
Oh wow awesome news. I didn't know intel, televisions and games consoles were supporting FreeSync too.

When will Intel start?

Does that read as Nvidia laptop gpu's already have FreeSync?
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Yup no reason for them not to implement the support, it is an open standard and doesn't cost them anything other than getting a driver team to enable it + it helps since AMD have both console manufacturers in their pocket as well as the tech. working over HDMI and not just display port.

Not 100% sure but iirc, rumours were suggesting from kabylake and if not then cannonlake.

Well, not freesync but adaptive sync :p But yes, afaik, most laptops have been using this for a long time due to the way they are setup in the first place, something about eDP panels supporting variable VBLANK, which is the necessary technology for variable refresh rates and has been on mobile devices for years now, iirc, they originally did it for better power efficiency.

One of the main reasons nvidia went with a gsync module in the first place was because their desktop GPUs didn't/don't have the hardware to utilise adaptive sync thus they needed a separate module.
 
RidingTheFlow said:
Ah, but there is the reason - lost $$$ from g-sync licenses. Also, whoever in management signs off the switch to Freesync will take responsibility of admitting that g-sync was a mistake, and g-sync R&D expenses will be write-off. No takers yet.

For same reason while laptops already use eDP Adaptive Sync, NVidia just adds extra level of vendor lock-in (e.g. checks for panel ID, crypto keys in VBIOS, etc) in and calls it "Mobile Gsync" - so in essence you have to pay Nvidia for allowing you to use their driver-only Adaptive Sync implementation :)
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I was referring to intel, tvs and the consoles with that "there is no reason for them not to" comment :p

But yeah nvidia would lose out on money, however, at the same time, I think they would gain a lot more customers in the long run, seeing plenty of people like myself who refuse to buy nvidia GPUs until they support adaptive sync.

It is just nvidia being stubborn once again with their closed source crap.

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I think there's a possibility NVidia will support freesync one day, if ever it becomes a standard then they will have no choice like it or not
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It already is a standard :p :D




Also, freesync is just AMD's marketing name for adaptive sync so when nvidia do support it, it won't be under freesync name but something else. IIRC, intel are just marketing their support as adaptive sync.
 
And when the acer x34 freesync was still being sold on ocuk before the brexit, it was being sold for £500-600 without any special deals....
 
I don't have that model but another LG 29", see my brief review in sig for pics etc.

Personally I would take 29" 2560x1080 21.9 over 27" 1440 16.9 but it is down to preference in the end.

Brizzles said:
Hardly relevant if you are looking to buy now.

No doubt both the monitors i listed were cheaper pre-brexit but the difference in price would have been similar.

G-sync is not a little bit more expensive, it is a very expensive feature.
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True but it still shows the point, exact same monitor, same brand, same specs (except for 75 VS 100HZ) except one was freesync and the other was gsync and the difference in price at that time was at least £350. It is better to use same brands than different brands if you want to do price comparisons.

And nope, surprisingly both of those monitors weren't any cheaper before the brexit, in fact the acer x34 was dearer at the time.

I don't disagree, gsync is not worth the premium imo.
 
GinG said:
Thanks for the info, review seems mainly positive.

Out of interest do you know the dimensions of the screen at all?

How do you find the height of the screen? I find the height of the 22" acceptable, so thinking about the width of the screen being larger it can only be a good thing right?!
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- Dimensions (with stand) - 702.5 x 181 x 418.2
- Dimensions (without stand) - 702.5 x 63.8 x 328.2

Remember my stand is different to the one you linked.

Height is fine, I would like about another 1/2" though

You can compare the height of your 22" and the 21.9 29" here:

http://www.displaywars.com/

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Cant really compare between brands, also is the LG 100hz? In the grand scheme of things, a couple hundy aint much over the presumed few years you will have it.

It is a hardware solution vs the software of freesync though is it not? inherently more expensive just there. i admit there will be nvidia tax in there too though :)


Im sure for the end user, the differences between the technologies is small enough not to notice anything between them, fact is though, if you use nvidia cards, you have no choice. Im very happy with what i paid for my monitor and graphics card and wouldnt change to amd. same as some poeple would never not buy an audi, etc Choices are good!
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Supposedly the reason for the big price difference is down to the monitors chassis having to be redesigned to fit the gsync module:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3129...ia-g-sync-on-monitor-selection-and-price.html

As for differences, afaik, the only differences are;

- the refresh rate range
- freesync is capable of having a lot more connection ports
- gsync works in borderless etc. mode

Hardware is still required for free/adaptive sync, it just so happens that most monitors have the required tech built in already and some of AMD cards have also got the required hardware built into their GPUs, monitor manufacturers just need to enable it via the firmware and AMD need to enable it via their drivers.
 
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