***21.9 Ultrawide Thread***

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Don't think I have ever used USB connections on my monitor :p


Regarding VA, it depends entirely on which panel, some are horrendous and some are on par with IPS or even exceeding it i.e. like the latest VA gaming screens by Samsung. Although "smearing" will happen when going from dark to bright areas or vice versa. The thing I find odd is that most TVs, which use VA panels have superb motion clarity compared to 60HZ monitors and I find it very hard to see any kind of smearing at all on them.

Personally I would prefer VA for the superior contrast ratio and black depth, current IPS and TN panels really suck for these 2 things. Can't say I have noticed any issues with text, the difference could be down to the panel finish i.e. the VA may have had a heavier matte finish than an IPS using a light matte coating.

IMO, the only real advantage that IPS has over the latest gaming VA panels now is that viewing angles are still much better.
 
Suppose that is where having a USB connector would be handy with regards to LED strip, be one less visible wire then.

The latest VA panels are significantly better from what I have read, of course the smearing is still there for transitions from dark to bright areas though :(

Can't stand TN, the contrast shift is just awful looking even when sat head in, you can see shades having different tones near the top/bottom of the screen :/

Unfortunately for monitors, it is very much a case of pick your poison.

I really hope we see a 34" 1440 IPS with full array local dimming at some point as that will be the best "overall" until OLED/QLED arrives but it won't be cheap...
 
What is TSW and PoE? IIRC, you need to use a fix for DOTA and 21.9.

Games that really shine in 21.9 are:

- FPS shooters like BF, doom, fallout 4
- 3rd person view i.e. the division, batman, witcher 3
- racing games
 
Ah I see, fair enough.

What size was your previous 16.9 screen?

As for colours/contrast, no idea if you have been through calibration settings but if this is anything like my 29" panel, you will need to do a few adjustments:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/

Adjust your contrast until you can see all these squares:

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/white.php

254 should be very hard to see.

My settings:

- brightness, I wouldn't use anything higher than 20%, mine is set to 10%
- contrast, had to set mine from 70 to 66
- use custom preset for colour temperature and leave the RGB at their default settings
- turn ECO off

For your model, you get more gamma options as well as a black equaliser so no idea what will be best for them.
 
As above.

For what doesn't work (which is very little these days), there are usually quick and easy fixes.

Only one game I know of that doesn't have 21.9 support at all is overwatch.
 
It is probably worth while googling the games you play followed by 21.9 as you might play certain titles, which I/misschief don't play.

As in the OP, wideasfcuk youtube channel does very good reviews on 21.9 support.
 
bobbarley said:
Shouldn't have to mod it, it should just be supported in the first place.
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I completely agree that it should "officially" be there from day 1 especially for new upcoming games.

If some guy in his free time can find/create a fix within a few days/week of release then a "team" of developers working on the game should be able to implement 21.9 before the game is even released, however, if you can't be bothered to to take 5-10 minutes at most to fix/add 21.9 support... you are better of returning the 21.9 monitor and going back to a 16.9 screen.

At the end of the day, getting 21.9 working is incredibly easy. I spend more time having to faff about with broken releases just to get them running acceptably whilst still looking good and avoiding bugs.
 
Legend said:
No, and I doubt there ever will be such a monitor, nor do I see why anyone would really want one. At that size it would be diddly... are you a Borrower?
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Higher PPI thus sharper.

Personally I would like to see the same too, 30-32" 21.9 would be the perfect size for me. 34" is great for the physical height but imo it is too wide.
 
Poneros said:
Update: After some unfavourable initial impressions with it, I'm now hooked on UW. Realised this while playing through ME2, started playing it on the TV again after playing on the monitor and I got so used to the extra side-vision I realised I don't like 16:9 so much anymore. Whoops! Compatibility problems and the 16:9 cinematics/movies are still a bitch tho. Oh well.
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Told you so! ;)

Welcome to the master race :D

If I ever went back to a 16.9 display, I would instantly be creating a 21.9 custom resolution, 16.9 really does feel so squashed after having used 21.9 for so long now.
 
TonyTurbo78 said:
tehehe
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Seriously though, you would love one for the racing games.

You could even create a custom 21.9 resolution for your monitor under AMD driver display to somewhat test it out (2560x1080 with a 1:1 pixel mapping is what you would need on yours iirc), although it won't look quite as good since the screen itself doesn't have the same width as the dedicated 21.9 screens.
 
TonyTurbo78 said:
I'd rather have 3 separates mate, which as you know I'm doing. It's far more immersive as a wrap around rather than 1 long squished screen
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Not squished, just wider :p

3 screens/eyefinity is superb for an immersive experience with thin bezel screens but personally I would be wary of these things:

- support, it is very patchy, more so than 21.9 these days (unless are the screens purely for your racing games?)
- conflicting issues i.e. as you know, even just having 2 screens connected can sometimes cause problems with games and certain drivers and when you add freesync on top of that, you "could" have more issues and add crossfire to the mix, even more (although I think you said you are moving to one top end card for definite?)
- the GPU power required, 3x1080P screens = 5760x3240 resolution in total, even higher than 4k! :p

Also, worth factoring in the price, I think you said it would come to £1000? Get a big TV instead, heck throw in an extra £600 and get a 55" 4K HDR OLED TV! :p Or you could buy the 38" screen that jedi has and be getting curved 10 bit IPS, 3840x1600, still though, I wouldn't even be wanting to pay that much for a single monitor.

harry5522 said:
Funnily going from 4:3 to 16:9 i did the exact same thing.
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That is exactly how I feel with regards to going from 4:3 to 16:9.

TonyTurbo78 said:
yeah, had a look at a friends a while back, to me everything looked squished and out of proportion and I just didn't like the experience it gave me. Maybe it was a one off bad experience but until I see other I've nothing else to base it on. I just think they look silly being that wide on a desk 30 inches from your face.
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Was he one of these 21.9 users who refuses to add/fix 21.9 support? :p

With regards to viewing distance, with the 34"+ screens, I can't believe some people sit so close to them. I only have the 29" version and I have to sit quite far back to really appreciate the 21.9 factor, sitting so close to the screens just takes away from the 21.9 extra FOV/wideness in my eyes.
 
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TonyTurbo78 said:
yeah that looks nice Harry.

I'm not purposely setting out to be an arse about it, Nexus will tell you it's been a running joke thing with me and him for months and months :). I just hear of multiple games not supporting it properly, having to run 3rd party tools on many instances to get it working somewhat correctly. If the screens are that good or that popular then surely every developer has to properly support them from the off.

Like I said above, I can only go on what I've seen in the flesh, maybe I need to find a way of giving it another look in the future. It's also the whole wide screen so close I don't really get, just looks a bit weird to my eye. More than likely due to the extensive years I've just gamed on a 16:9 panel. I guess it's no different to when you buy that 55" TV for your lounge, it looks fine in the shop, but get it home and you're like wow holy crap it's big. But after a while it just begins very normal looking.
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We just like to troll too much ;) :p :D

Support is funny, a lot of old games work fantastically with it yet some don't and then some new games work great but others don't i.e. batman arkham asylum 21.9 support is better than arkham knight's 21.9 support although I will put that down to the ****** small time studio handling the PC port :p Most of the new games that don't support it at all is purely down to the developers not wanting to for certain reasons i.e.

- overwatch - provides an advantage and originally the reason was it ruins the art work lol..
- resident evil - ruins the experience by seeing more since the game is suppose to feel closed in

Those are the only 2 recent games that I know of, which don't properly support it as well as there being no proper fixes.

Rising storm 2 doesn't have it atm but it is in their roadmap to be added and insurgency etc. have it so it should be there for the final release.

For myself, I have had very little issue with 21.9, first 1-2 years definitely were poor (as there weren't many fixes and they took longer to come as 21.9 was the new kid on the block so not many users/interest)

It definitely takes some getting used to, at first, I was so so about it but after having used it for a week or so and then going back to 16.9, it is a bit like what people say about g/free sync tech, you only mainly realise just how good the tech. is once you go back to a non g/free sync monitor and I've been using 21.9 for around 4 years now so 16.9 feels very foreign to my eyes now.

TonyTurbo78 said:
purely for racing/flight sims which tends to be perfectly supported mate.

And not worried about price or pc performance, just sold my very very clean '91 Escort RS Turbo yesterday for a lot!!! of money :) Lets just say I could build 10+ high end PCs with the money. Will be going Vega once she drops.
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Ah fair enough, eyefinity probably be better for the sims then, well actually what would be very nice is one 21.9 screen in the middle and 2 x 16.9 screens of similar height on the sides ;)

Oh very nice :cool: Surely should you not be looking at the rich boys GPUs/tech i.e. nvidia and gsync and leaving the AMD peasant club! :p :D ;) For me it is the principle, monitor manufacturers take the **** with their pricing especially for "high end" monitors.

foster grant said:
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but is this Monitor worth the money please ?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aoc-...curved-led-monitor-black-silve-mo-04a-ao.html
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Too dear for what it is imo.
 
For myself, I wouldn't put up with back light bleed "if" it is noticeable in normal usage with an appropriate brightness setting. Imo it is a fault and there are monitors out there with no back light bleed.
 
fenchu said:
It doesn't show up whilst gaming only if the screen is dark. Normally I would swap in heartbeat considering price etc I just don't want to end up endlessly swapping panels when I could get worse or one with dead pixels.

I'll post picture shortly when back on mobile at moment.
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Hard to say by photos but personally, I think that would bug me. But as you said, for all you know, you could get a worse one :(

I watch a lot of dark content as well as play a lot of dark games and with my first 2 29" monitors, it was awful, I could even notice it in bright conditions :/

If you don't notice it on dark content such as games like alien isolation, dark souls, doom etc. then I wouldn't worry.

harry5522 said:
I've come to terms with IPS glow I've had it on all my IPS screens.

The vivid colours make up for the not so great blacks. Roll on OLED 3440x1440 200hz 0.1ms gsync and whatever other crazy tech comes along in 45 years when ^ is available
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IPS glow is different to back light bleed. Every IPS monitor has IPS glow to a certain extent. Backlight bleed is not a fault of IPS but more so down to the chassis assembly i.e. the plastic housing around the panel is too tight. IPS panels seem to be more sensitive to pressure than other panel types though.

I've never had much issue with IPS glow, I think it is overblown a lot of the time as generally it is only ever an issue on dark content in a dark/dim room AND viewing from an angle. Reducing my brightness to about 90/100 luminance and adding a LED strip to the back of the monitor reduced the appearance of it considerably, even for when viewing from a slight angle.

OLED 21.9 would be stunning, I dread to see the price when that day comes though :o Until then, the next best and closest thing will be HDR + full array local dimming monitors but again, they will not be cheap.
 
Batman AA is very nice on 21.9, the boss fights are where the extra FOV/wideness really shines:

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Graphics are a bit meh overall now, however, the amount of detail and thought put into the arkham asylum design is amazing.
 
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