24" screen beasts!!

nevos2005

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Hi guys

Going to buy a new monitor and need to know which is the best for gaming and films. I am a big gamer going to get crossfire 4870 and finally want the best 24" monitor to play my games on in full HD (aka fear 2, Crysis...)

I have been looking at the dell 2408wfp a01 and the samsung t240. Is there any others that match or improve on these? which is the best quality screen for gaming and films??

Please let me know!! as i am desperate to get one of these monitors... or 2 lol!!

Cheers

Nevil
 
My mate has a 2408wfp and I'm using a 2407wfp-HC. I personally think the Dells are overpriced and overrated. Get a TN panel samsung unless you want perfect viewing angles and colour representation.
 
Alfie said:
My mate has a 2408wfp and I'm using a 2407wfp-HC. I personally think the Dells are overpriced and overrated. Get a TN panel samsung unless you want perfect viewing angles and colour representation.
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yeah sure, buy cheaper inferior products if you dont want a quality screen. Briliant advice. Whats your budge, ill just quote qhat i said in another post a few seconds ago:

8igdave said:
AFK_Matrix said:
Well I am afte 2 x 24" monitors and thus can't spend too much and need a screen with good colours as I do 3d Modelling but one I can also game on.

I have been recommended the Benq FP241W, have a look on google for some reviews. Oh and this is a PVA panel thus you get the better colours, I have found this for £303-£312.
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ViRuS2k said:
yeah but guys that pannel only has

1000/1 ratio and 6ms responce times.

its gonna suck when watching 1080p and playing games, ghosting/bluring ect

am i wrong in my thinking :/
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This is proably the bset 24" you can get tbh. i have one and it is incredible. I dont think youll find a review taht says otherwize. I suggest you get the benq fp241w, the colours are incredible and i can stand directly next to the monitor and there is no colour shift what so ever. Blacks are very well represented indeed. Contrast numbers can mean anything tbh, its how the monitor displays them that matters. Also a 6ms is perfectly fine. This is not an idication of ghosting and you will notice no difference betwen 2ms and 6ms.

2ms screens are infact inferior screens with poor colour representation in comparison and terrible viewing angles. They are TN pannels. personly dont understand why peoople spend their money on them. Quality iover quanity, get a better 22" if you can't fit a desent 24" into your budget in my opinion anyway.
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8igdave said:
yeah sure, buy cheaper inferior products if you dont want a quality screen. Briliant advice. Whats your budge, ill just quote qhat i said in another post a few seconds ago:
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Easy mate, I'm just trying to save him a few pennies. blimey!

If budget isn't an issue then obviously get a high end panel. and yes the Dell's or the BenQ are both great.

I personally think the Dell's specs go beyond most peoples requirements tis all.
 
Another vote for the benq fp241w, ive had one for the best part of a year now and its been a great all round monitor.
 
Gues then thats answered his question :)

Alfie said:
Easy mate, I'm just trying to save him a few pennies. blimey!

If budget isn't an issue then obviously get a high end panel. and yes the Dell's or the BenQ are both great.

I personally think the Dell's specs go beyond most peoples requirements tis all.
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Its just the way you say "perfect" perhaps you just havn't seen the huge differences between the quality.
 
I have to throw in my opinion here and say that I think on this forum I have seen a LOT of exagerated posts on monitors. I see people write that basically any TN panel is completely inferior these days to the top end monitors, and that viewing angles are shocking, photo editing not possible due to poor colour representation and that HD films will not look good, but gaming will. My advice is to take it with a pinch of salt and buy what your budget allows. I just got a TN panel 24" Dell and it's imo completely useable for all tasks you throw at it. Poor viewing angles on a desktop monitor is a completely irrelevant argument for me personally, in that I only ever look directly at a screen anyway, even if I am watching a film. Who tries to do watch a film at 170 degrees?

You don't always get what you pay for imo, and some people are obsessed with monitors and will tell you their £500 jobbie is amazing because...well...they paid good money for it so of course it's worth the extra. Not many unibiast opinions that I see, but more fanboys of a particular brand. Shame.
 
Benq fp241w +1

Had one for over a year and its awesome.

Tried doing a screen capture test to see the LCD lag against my CRT and there is virtually none.
 
jaybee said:
I have to throw in my opinion here and say that I think on this forum I have seen a LOT of exagerated posts on monitors. I see people write that basically any TN panel is completely inferior these days to the top end monitors, and that viewing angles are shocking, photo editing not possible due to poor colour representation and that HD films will not look good, but gaming will. My advice is to take it with a pinch of salt and buy what your budget allows. I just got a TN panel 24" Dell and it's imo completely useable for all tasks you throw at it. Poor viewing angles on a desktop monitor is a completely irrelevant argument for me personally, in that I only ever look directly at a screen anyway, even if I am watching a film. Who tries to do watch a film at 170 degrees?

You don't always get what you pay for imo, and some people are obsessed with monitors and will tell you their £500 jobbie is amazing because...well...they paid good money for it so of course it's worth the extra. Not many unibiast opinions that I see, but more fanboys of a particular brand. Shame.
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Have you actually tryed teh differnce because id say the vast majority of people just buy off the internet and have not actually seen the differnce. And from the way you wrote that i think its quite likely you havn't. And therefore really cannot truely back that statement up. Ill agree can be a bit overexagurated and its all personal prefference. But there is a noticeable difference i can assure you.

As for claiming fanboisms i do hope thats not because everyone ahs said the benq. have you thought that may just be for a reason? Youd have to be very nieve to claim that so many people supporting a monitor which is claimed by many reviewers to be one of the best 24"s you can buy to be fanboyism.

Besides your own arguement could be turned against you saying that people with TN pannels try and justify their buys by playing down the quality difference. You get what you pay for. That should be a basic lesson everyone has learnt by now.

O and as for the viewing angles, the amount of colour shift on some of the Tn pannels is particularly bad that you litraly have to be dead on. Which i dont know about others but i very rarely am if im just browsing the internet and watching a film im leaning back on my chair and usualy sideways a bit.
 
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Jaybee I dont understand the bit of a rant. As far as I can see nobody has mentioned panel types, viewing angles etc,etc. People have just stated they like their monitors and to read reviews about it. The person who posted would be best off looking at all types of monitors in a shop and choosing themselves. This is not always possible so other peoples opinions will help to narrow down any future purchase. Why did you not just recommend a good TN panel instead.
 
Dr. Prod said:
Jaybee I dont understand the bit of a rant. As far as I can see nobody has mentioned panel types, viewing angles etc,etc. People have just stated they like their monitors and to read reviews about it. The person who posted would be best off looking at all types of monitors in a shop and choosing themselves. This is not always possible so other peoples opinions will help to narrow down any future purchase. Why did you not just recommend a good TN panel instead.
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viewing angles were menchened in teh quote of my self. But sorry its the truth they are terrible in comparison. Thats just a stated fact. If you only ever sit face on to your pc then good for them. Unfortunetly taht doesn't apply to a lot of people who actualy like to move, slump and not sit ridged infront of their pc all day. or if they plan on using it for a consol as well etc, which might i point out the Benq everyone recomended has hdmi and component etc, then sitting back is just a no no the colours will be bad and playing multiplayer just wont work unless both sitting next to each other infront of it.

I dunno about you guys, but when i bought this monitor i got it because i knew i could use it for things other then just on my pc. Very handy for taking to uni etc.
 
I didn't mean to come accross as bashing any one particular monitor, especially not the BenQ. It IS a great monitor, I should know having used one. I do know the difference yes, but for me the price difference is NOT worth the extra money at all, and this is just my opinion but I just got a 24" TN panel Dell e248WFP and I can move round the room and still see the screen with good colour apart from at extremes at which I would not attempt to look at a screen anyway. For me the colour shift is just massively exagerated on this and other forums. But each to their own. This is not a jealous "i can not afford a >£XXX monitor" but rather that I could but just won't pay it for the minimal gain. The majority of arguments are that colour representation is so much better on higher priced ones especially for video and picture editing, yet this is meaingless without properly getting it calibrated anyway, so for me, unless you will go all out and get this done or you genuinely use your monitor as your ONLY TV as well, then TN panels are MORE than exceptable for a good all round monitor.
 
If your gaming then a TN panel has to be a serious consideration as other types are often not upto serious gaming...

If your doing any serious image editing type use then a TN is deffaintly not going to cut it... TN is ok for movies if your happy to sit within a fairly tight range of angles.

The problems with TN are massively exaggerated often based on experience of early models...
 
8igdave said:
Have you actually tryed teh differnce because id say the vast majority of people just buy off the internet and have not actually seen the differnce. And from the way you wrote that i think its quite likely you havn't. And therefore really cannot truely back that statement up. Ill agree can be a bit overexagurated and its all personal prefference. But there is a noticeable difference i can assure you.

As for claiming fanboisms i do hope thats not because everyone ahs said the benq. have you thought that may just be for a reason? Youd have to be very nieve to claim that so many people supporting a monitor which is claimed by many reviewers to be one of the best 24"s you can buy to be fanboyism.

Besides your own arguement could be turned against you saying that people with TN pannels try and justify their buys by playing down the quality difference. You get what you pay for. That should be a basic lesson everyone has learnt by now.

O and as for the viewing angles, the amount of colour shift on some of the Tn pannels is particularly bad that you litraly have to be dead on. Which i dont know about others but i very rarely am if im just browsing the internet and watching a film im leaning back on my chair and usualy sideways a bit.
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I have a TN panel and a IPS panel connected to my PC and the main discernable difference is that the image on the TN panel becomes darker or brighter depending on the vertical viewing angle. For example the OcUK forums background becomes a darker shade of blue. When I move down and look up the image on the IPS panel doesn't change whereas the same image on the TN panel has darkened and the lower I go the darker it becomes. When I move up and look down on the monitors the image is again the same on the IPS panel whereas on the TN panel it has become brighter and when I move higher up it reaches it's brightness peak and then starts to become darker again.

When I move left and sit in line with the left bezel of each monitor the image is the same on the IPS panel and it is also virtually the same for the TN panel unless of course I also move my head up or down causing it to brighten or darken as mentioned above.

So for sure there is an issue with vertical viewing angles, and while it's possible to see these issues by moving around, I have to move around a substantial amount for the colour shifting/brightness changes to be very noticable. I can slouch in my chair or move left or right and the picture on the TN panel is pretty much the same. A slight difference in the brightness level occurs but it's hardly worth mentioning. The IPS panel is superior because I see that the picture doesn't change at all but the TN panel comes in a very close second and is perfectly usable. I have little doubt that the majority of consumers who simply make use of the monitor wouldn't even notice the slight differences likely because they don't know such an issue exists (oblivious to it) or when they do know they simply don't care about it.

Some people might actually be inclined to read your post and think that you know what you are talking about yet you haven't actually said much at all and in fact the substance in your post appears to be aimed at berating Jaybee which actually strengthens his point about fanboys and obsessed monitor people. :eek:
 
Read a lot of high opinions of the NEC LCD24WMGX3 for gaming. It's often reported to be superior to the Dell2408 WFP and its about the same price on here.
 
Is it just me or is there a bad atmosphere in this thread for asolutely no reason? Let's hope we can just share opinions and help nevos make an informed decision.

(not directed at anyone in particular)
 
jaybee said:
I didn't mean to come accross as bashing any one particular monitor, especially not the BenQ. It IS a great monitor, I should know having used one. I do know the difference yes, but for me the price difference is NOT worth the extra money at all, and this is just my opinion but I just got a 24" TN panel Dell e248WFP and I can move round the room and still see the screen with good colour apart from at extremes at which I would not attempt to look at a screen anyway. For me the colour shift is just massively exagerated on this and other forums. But each to their own. This is not a jealous "i can not afford a >£XXX monitor" but rather that I could but just won't pay it for the minimal gain. The majority of arguments are that colour representation is so much better on higher priced ones especially for video and picture editing, yet this is meaingless without properly getting it calibrated anyway, so for me, unless you will go all out and get this done or you genuinely use your monitor as your ONLY TV as well, then TN panels are MORE than exceptable for a good all round monitor.
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Ahh yes some good points. I agree calibration is very important and yeah some wont see it as a valid option for the price. But in threads like this, i think the guy does.
 
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