2700x CH6 Overclocking help

Webster · 28 Apr 2018 at 19:16

Hi All,

Looking for some assistance struggling to get this thing stable.

Bios 6004 and leaving everything as apart from setting ram to 3200 or above it won't pass stability tests.

Going to give it another go tomorrow when I get time and looking for some input or advice on process.

I was going to leave it all auto and make sure the cpu is stable with ram at auto and go from there.

I ran my 1700x at 3.9 3200CL 14.

Thanks in advance

BongoHunter · 28 Apr 2018 at 19:18

Do your get the same result if you give your memory a touch more voltage?

Jumper118 · 28 Apr 2018 at 19:27

you might need to wait for another bios update before you can run ram at full speed again. i have CH6, x370 gaming 5, prime x370 pro and the CH7 and i cant get ram to run as fast on any of the x370 boards as i can on the CH7. they are anywhere from 200-500mhz below the x470 board. i would expect this to be fixed in later bios's as the ch6 and ch7 are pretty similar boards.

for now run 3000 or 2800c14 and push the cpu clock on your 2700x, so you should still get more performance than your 1700x

Webster · 28 Apr 2018 at 19:27

BongoHunter said:
Do your get the same result if you give your memory a touch more voltage?

Testing has been with mem at 1.4v

It's 8 pack 3600mhz kit.

Webster · 28 Apr 2018 at 19:33

This

Jumper118 said:
you might need to wait for another bios update before you can run ram at full speed again. i have CH6, x370 gaming 5, prime x370 pro and the CH7 and i cant get ram to run as fast on any of the x370 boards as i can on the CH7. they are anywhere from 200-500mhz below the x470 board. i would expect this to be fixed in later bios's as the ch6 and ch7 are pretty similar boards.

for now run 3000 or 2800c14 and push the cpu clock on your 2700x, so you should still get more performance than your 1700x

This sounds sensible

I hope so I don't wanna have to get a x470 if I can help it.

Thanks

HeX · 28 Apr 2018 at 19:59

Grab this: http://www.overclock.net/forum/13-a...lator-1-1-0-beta-2-overclocking-dram-am4.html

Try entering the 'Safe' timings manually in bios and test, if those work try the 'fast' timings.

Webster · 29 Apr 2018 at 13:57

Quick update:

Everything is fine at 3000Mhz/CL14 so I'll do as suggested and wait for a new bios revision.

I was so dead set on 3200 as a minimum it became disheartening and you begin to question yourself etc.

Thanks

Webster · 29 Apr 2018 at 18:54

Further update: getting lag spikes/frame drops? I hope a new bios arrives or I'm going back to intel

Ad_Augendae · 29 Apr 2018 at 21:51

I thought these 2xxx series was better with Ram, what a nightmare!

Max System Memory Speed
2933MHz

SupraWez · 29 Apr 2018 at 22:16

Depends on your RAM and settings, I run my 1700 at 3500 on a CH6 with tight timings.

Smffy · 30 Apr 2018 at 07:39

S.S.D.R

Webster · 1 May 2018 at 10:24

Webzta said:
Further update: getting lag spikes/frame drops? I hope a new bios arrives or I'm going back to intel

Still getting weird behaviour/slow downs in games - running CPU at stock / ram at 3000Mhz.

Anyone else having any issues with their 2700x setup?

opethdisciple · 1 May 2018 at 11:42

My impression with the 2000 series and RAM.

They might be better. But that doesn't mean it's plug and play. You've still got to find the magic combination of settings in the BIOS.

I read recently that AMD still have a lot of work to do with ram DOCP. Lots of settings are hidden and may not be correct when set to auto.

You also need to buy the right ram.

Even with 8 Pack Samsung B-Die I'm having issues.

Probably better with the X470 boards.

YMMV.

kitfit1 · 1 May 2018 at 13:05

opethdisciple said:
My impression with the 2000 series and RAM.

They might be better. But that doesn't mean it's plug and play. You've still got to find the magic combination of settings in the BIOS.

I read recently that AMD still have a lot of work to do with ram DOCP. Lots of settings are hidden and may not be correct when set to auto.

You also need to buy the right ram.

Even with 8 Pack Samsung B-Die I'm having issues.

Probably better with the X470 boards.

YMMV.

To be honest, if anyone has the 8 Pack B-die they should use Manual instead of DOCP. Then set ram speed to 3333, go into the ram settings and select and load "The Stilts" safe B-die 3333 timings. I'm running 4x8Gb sticks in my CH6 and it works without any issues at all.

HeX · 1 May 2018 at 13:29

Have had zero issues with the 8 pack ram, have ran it from 3200-3466 on C14-C15 using Stilts timings no issues on a 1700 and now a 2700X.

DarkHorizon472 · 1 May 2018 at 15:36

kitfit1 said:
To be honest, if anyone has the 8 Pack B-die they should use Manual instead of DOCP. Then set ram speed to 3333, go into the ram settings and select and load "The Stilts" safe B-die 3333 timings. I'm running 4x8Gb sticks in my CH6 and it works without any issues at all.

That’s useful advice, is it much faster than 3200c14 in reality ?

kitfit1 · 1 May 2018 at 15:56

DarkHorizon472 said:
That’s useful advice, is it much faster than 3200c14 in reality ?

The Stilts safe 3333 settings are 14-14-14-30-52 the same as 3200c14, so it will be a bit faster yes. The same settings work up to 3400c14, that's on the CH6 running 6004 bios. If i can do it with 4x8Gb sticks, then it should be a piece of cake for anyone running 2x8Gb sticks. The most important thing is to leave SOC on Auto with the 2700x, setting SOC to the usual 1.1v results in errors when running Realbench, Prime95 or OCCT.

Webster · 1 May 2018 at 16:13

kitfit1 said:
The Stilts safe 3333 settings are 14-14-14-30-52 the same as 3200c14, so it will be a bit faster yes. The same settings work up to 3400c14, that's on the CH6 running 6004 bios. If i can do it with 4x8Gb sticks, then it should be a piece of cake for anyone running 2x8Gb sticks. The most important thing is to leave SOC on Auto with the 2700x, setting SOC to the usual 1.1v results in errors when running Realbench, Prime95 or OCCT.

I'll give this a go later. Thanks

opethdisciple · 1 May 2018 at 16:35

kitfit1 said:
The Stilts safe 3333 settings are 14-14-14-30-52 the same as 3200c14, so it will be a bit faster yes. The same settings work up to 3400c14, that's on the CH6 running 6004 bios. If i can do it with 4x8Gb sticks, then it should be a piece of cake for anyone running 2x8Gb sticks. The most important thing is to leave SOC on Auto with the 2700x, setting SOC to the usual 1.1v results in errors when running Realbench, Prime95 or OCCT.

I'll try this when I get home.

3333MHz 14-14-14-30-52 1.35v or does it need more??
SOC on auto.

What I have found with my CPU is unless I add LLC 3 on to the CPU my ram isn't stable.

CPU is at stock.

kitfit1 · 1 May 2018 at 16:41

opethdisciple said:
I'll try this when I get home.

3333MHz 14-14-14-30-52 1.35v or does it need more??
SOC on auto.

What I have found with my CPU is unless I add LLC 3 on to the CPU my ram isn't stable.

CPU is at stock.

When you load the stilts safe settings, your ram voltage and ram boot voltage will be set to 1.4v don't change it. Same here as well, CPU and SOC LLC set to 3. It was the same with the 1700 as well.