2gb to 4gb?

Concorde Rules said:
lol!

Cyber, how much 3D work do you do, is it 24/7 and your money flow is affected by the speed you work?


If not that extra 2Gb was a waste, no two ways about it.
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If his system / application will make use of the extra ram, then it's NOT a waste. It's only a waste IF it does NOT use the ram.

If that ram gives a speed benefit to the 3d rendering then fantastic, it's worth it's cost.

If a render takes 4hrs to do with 2GB ram compared to say 2Hrs with 4GB, then it's ALWAYS a benefit, not to mention, the render may not be correct and so has to be modified and started again. Would you really like to wait for 4 hrs to find that you cocked up and have to do another 4 hrs for the completed output?

ok, my times of 2-4 hrs may be wildly off reality here, but I remember years ago when 386 / 486's with 4mb ram were the bees knees. One 3dsMAX render took about a day to complete. :eek: Increasing it to 16mb was a real eye opener.

Only Cyber-Mav can say whether it is justified and a worthwhile purchase as he's the one that has to use it.

Personally I think a lot of you nay sayers are just jealous. :p
 
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i do some work that requires the 4 gig ram.

and its not a real waste of money considering the ram was on special offer by crucial for 85 quid inc vat and free delivery for the 2gig kit. for that price i had to snap it up even if its just for asthetics. :D
 
Elric said:
If his system / application will make use of the extra ram, then it's NOT a waste. It's only a waste IF it does NOT use the ram.

If that ram gives a speed benefit to the 3d rendering then fantastic, it's worth it's cost.

If a render takes 4hrs to do with 2GB ram compared to say 2Hrs with 4GB, then it's ALWAYS a benefit, not to mention, the render may not be correct and so has to be modified and started again. Would you really like to wait for 4 hrs to find that you cocked up and have to do another 4 hrs for the completed output?

ok, my times of 2-4 hrs may be wildly off reality here, but I remember years ago when 386 / 486's with 4mb ram were the bees knees. One 3dsMAX render took about a day to complete. :eek: Increasing it to 16mb was a real eye opener.

Only Cyber-Mav can say whether it is justified and a worthwhile purchase as he's the one that has to use it.

Personally I think a lot of you nay sayers are just jealous. :p
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What you say is true, but the money which could have been spent on a X2 CPU would have greatly decreased times, far far far more than an extra 2Gb would.

CR.
 
Concorde Rules said:
What you say is true, but the money which could have been spent on a X2 CPU would have greatly decreased times, far far far more than an extra 2Gb would.

CR.
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But what if you already have a Dual core.... :p
 
Cyber-Mav said:
i want dual core now, but want one that can hit 3ghz on air cooling. what 939 x2 would handle that?
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Ha pushing it there mate, the money you could spend finding a 3ghz DC 939 I could spend on Conroe and whip its backside. :p
 
pointless, wound need to buy new board and new memory so conroe is out of the question.

may hunt around for a dual core that can do 2.8ghz then. hope its not too shabby.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
pointless, wound need to buy new board and new memory so conroe is out of the question.

may hunt around for a dual core that can do 2.8ghz then. hope its not too shabby.
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Well, a FX-60/Opty 185? Is what £600? They both have the best chances of getting to 3Ghz, however anything under that is really hit and miss, there are some awsome chips out there, and the owners will probably be floggin them and/or keeping them. Plus the fact the amount of heat would over-run pretty much any air cooling.

2.8Ghz is more realistic, there are quite a few that will do that. Don't bet on new tho, 939 has stopped.

MM/auction/XS etc is your best bet.
 
yea second hand is fine, im not shelling out 600 quid for a new cpu its a waste of money. no more than 150 quid tops. could also sell my current cpu or do part ex for dual core.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
yea second hand is fine, im not shelling out 600 quid for a new cpu its a waste of money. no more than 150 quid tops. could also sell my current cpu or do part ex for dual core.
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I'm hanging on for a good clocking 3800 or similar, should be dirt cheap after conrow is out.
 
silversurfer said:
The majority of purchases and discussions on this board are a waste. Very few people need anything more then a well setup socket a system.
I think he allready knows what you mean to say and isnt bothered so no point going on
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The point is valid without a doubt, the example however is a little behind the times

socket a was great in its time but even I use more power than a 2500 Barton @3200 ( which I believe was about max for socket a give or take a little)

Unless you start going into extremem cooling of one kind or another of course :D

Personally a decent s754 / 939 system will suit most for some time to come that is for sure - but most who read this board avidly are within about 1% of the computer market and just love the technology etc and therefore idolise the latest kit ( well exept AM2 of course - unfortunately)
 
FrankJH said:
The point is valid without a doubt, the example however is a little behind the times

socket a was great in its time but even I use more power than a 2500 Barton @3200 ( which I believe was about max for socket a give or take a little)

Unless you start going into extremem cooling of one kind or another of course :D

Personally a decent s754 / 939 system will suit most for some time to come that is for sure - but most who read this board avidly are within about 1% of the computer market and just love the technology etc and therefore idolise the latest kit ( well exept AM2 of course - unfortunately)
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Yes the point is valid, hopefully my Conroe rig with a X1900 (which will be replaced 2/3 months after the 2nd gen of DX10 cards will last me to uni, 2 years away, ive had enough of spending large amount of money on hardware.

I would be looking for a good clocking X2 too, but as my 939 setup has been giving me grief (yet my XP-M setup was godly) I sold it ready for a rock solid Conroe system.

Ah well :(
 
im reluctant to go for a x2 3800 because it only has 512kb cache per core where my single core has 1mb cache. hence why i would like a dual core cpu with 1mb per core.

tricky situation this becuase i also want a cpu that will clock up to the speeds my current cpu is at. and im sure with a better board my cpu would clock even higher.
 
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