2K build for graphic design

Dave777 · 30 Dec 2017 at 10:02

Hi learned forum posters.

I have offered to build a PC for a friend who works from home. He uses Corel and Adobe graphic design software and needs a PC to handle big design files quickly. He can budget upto 2K inc VAT and needs a new monitor to go with it but that is a separate budget.

Any thoughts, especially re graphics card. Games not played, but I know some cards can accelerate some graphics design software.

Thanks

orbitalwalsh · 30 Dec 2017 at 12:53

Dave777 said:
Hi learned forum posters.

I have offered to build a PC for a friend who works from home. He uses Corel and Adobe graphic design software and needs a PC to handle big design files quickly. He can budget upto 2K inc VAT and needs a new monitor to go with it but that is a separate budget.

Any thoughts, especially re graphics card. Games not played, but I know some cards can accelerate some graphics design software.

Thanks

Any more specific details of what they do/use the programs for ? Memory bandwidth can play a big part as well as thread count / CPU Cashe for extreme pieces of work . GPU can be used as an accelerator but depends on what's used and how etc

Seems corelDraw has been coded for multicore/thread CPUs which is handy, photoshop still prefers fast fewer cores (though recent updates may have change things around and depends on what version they are using )

Reading up, larger the files on Corel, the more dependant on ram . If you able to find out how bigger files on average they are working with , but seems 16GB should be considered as standard, lower latency the better

Dave777 · 30 Dec 2017 at 21:08

Thanks.

Mainly Corel Draw itself and Photoshop. Files are at least a few hundred MB each some a bit bigger. I was struggling to find info on Corel GPU usage. I was looking at 32GB RAM and a 1050/1050ti?

orbitalwalsh · 30 Dec 2017 at 22:02

Dave777 said:
Thanks.

Mainly Corel Draw itself and Photoshop. Files are at least a few hundred MB each some a bit bigger. I was struggling to find info on Corel GPU usage. I was looking at 32GB RAM and a 1050/1050ti?

If GPU usage isn't huge or acceleration isn't great, you could be looking at AMD Ryzen 1700 8 core/12 thread of Thread Ripper 1920x 12 core/24 threads to chew through work .
Ripper might be excessive if not CPU rendering is required .
But it does have advantage of quad channel which is idea for above situations ... Just the cost of two 2x 8GB 3600hz kits are £230

Dave777 · 31 Dec 2017 at 19:36

I am not very up to date on AMD processors. Is the Ryzen 1700 a better bet than an i7-8700K. I see the Threadripper CPUs are expensive but maybe worth it?

tamzzy · 2 Jan 2018 at 00:30

go big or go home

My basket at Overclockers UK:

2 x Team Group Night Hawk LED 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - White Light (TH= £239.99
1 x EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 SC Low Profile 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £64.99
2 x Seagate BarraCuda 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache HDD - OEM (ST3000DM008 )= £72.95
1 x be quiet! Pure Power 10 400W CM 80 Plus Silver Modular Power Supply= £64.99
1 x Intel Core i7-7820X 3.6GHz (Skylake X / Basin Falls) Socket LGA2066 Processor - OEM= £479.99
1 x Asus TUF X299 Mark2 (Socket 2066) Intel X299 ATX Motherboard= £199.99
1 x Samsung PM961 Polaris 1TB M.2-2280 PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £379.99
1 x Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer AIO CPU Cooler - 360mm= £109.99
1 x Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Midi Tower Case with Window - Black= £71.99

Total: £2,011.01 (includes shipping: £13.20)

x299 octa core cpu. 64gb ram, 2x3tb hdd for raid 1 data redundancy
massive 1tb nvme ssd for fast data retrieval and scratchpad

tamzzy · 2 Jan 2018 at 00:32

43inch 4k ips monitor

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x LG 43UD79-B 43" 3840x2160 IPS 4K 60Hz Widescreen LED Monitor - Black= £659.99

Total: £671.69 (includes shipping: £11.70)

orbitalwalsh · 2 Jan 2018 at 08:48

Dave777 said:
I am not very up to date on AMD processors. Is the Ryzen 1700 a better bet than an i7-8700K. I see the Threadripper CPUs are expensive but maybe worth it?

Thread ripper.
Overshot a little but 12c/24t with 3600hz ram and tight timings .
Storage is less then above

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x AMD Ryzen Threadripper Twelve Core 1920X 4.00GHz (Socket TR4) Processor - Retail= £629.99
2 x Team Group Dark Pro "8Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/= £218.99
1 x be quiet! Silent Loop Superior Liquid CPU Cooler - 360mm= £149.99
1 x be quiet TR4 Cooler Bracket= £2.99
1 x be quiet! Pure Base 600 Midi Tower Case - Black Window= £84.95
2 x Toshiba P300 2TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache High Performance Hard Drive (HDWD120UZSVA)= £57.95
1 x Samsung 960 EVO Polaris 500GB M.2 2280 PCI-e 3.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £239.99
1 x Gigabyte GA-X399 GAMING 7 AMD X399 (Socket TR4) ATX Motherboard= £299.99
1 x Palit NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £59.99
1 x Super Flower Platinum King 450W 80 Plus Platinum Power Supply - Black= £64.99

Total: £2,101.46 (includes shipping: £14.70)

Dave777 · 2 Jan 2018 at 10:38

Those two builds are brilliant. Just the sort of ideas I needed thank you.

The monitor looks amazing but I think he may need a bigger desk!

Is the GT 1030 good enough to run any GPU acceleration he may need?

tamzzy · 2 Jan 2018 at 11:29

Dave777 said:
Those two builds are brilliant. Just the sort of ideas I needed thank you.

np

if you could find out how much storage he'll need, these specs can be tweaked around

Dave777 said:
The monitor looks amazing but I think he may need a bigger desk!

maybe he *should* get a bigger desk...

Dave777 said:
Is the GT 1030 good enough to run any GPU acceleration he may need?

yep. cuda cores

Dave777 · 2 Jan 2018 at 11:37

Excellent. I will advise him to get a bigger studio too! Glad the 1030 will do as means more money for RAM/CPU. I may reduce the storage hard drive as I am setting up a NAS drive for him for longer term storage which will back up to Onedrive.

ZXSpectrum · 2 Jan 2018 at 11:44

I would add an additional nvme drive to that system as a dedicated scratch disk for Adobe. Check the sizes of files he uses and go from there. You will probably get away with a 120Gb-250Gb.

tamzzy · 2 Jan 2018 at 11:46

Dave777 said:
I will advise him to get a bigger studio too!

Dave777 · 2 Jan 2018 at 11:46

Good call on that too thanks.

orbitalwalsh · 2 Jan 2018 at 14:15

Thanks to AMD , good time for CPU as Intel getting the hands forced

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Both are solid lists bit nothings perfect, tweak to hearts content . Style is a hard one to judge as well as brand loyalty etc

Happy building, post pics when your getting it under way so we can judge you on cable management whilst hiding the fact our own is shocking haha

Dave777 · 2 Jan 2018 at 15:58

Will do, but the Force is not strong in this one either!!!!

He has a big show coming up so will be a little while before I can complete it and swap out his current one. I would like to run them alongside each other for a while but he really doesn't have much space!

orbitalwalsh · 2 Jan 2018 at 20:23

Dave777 said:
Will do, but the Force is not strong in this one either!!!!

He has a big show coming up so will be a little while before I can complete it and swap out his current one. I would like to run them alongside each other for a while but he really doesn't have much space!

Nice to do bench marks and test between. Both systems of you can. Really hits home how much of improvement it is .
Did a Ryzen build for a friend doing CPU/GPU rendering g and 3D splicing and shaves off 10/20 hours off a 5 day render

If the GPU is lacking, he can always pick up a 2nd hand 1070 unit etc . Least the core is solid in either build