30/11 Strikes.

mrbell1984 said:
You talking about the increase in education and NHS funding in 2007-2008?
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And the defecit during boom years and the 40 billion overspend in the MoD etc etc.

Tory boy I hear some say ? No. I live and work in the north east and no Tory government has given a rats about the area and find me a reason to vote for them but the alternative of Labour running the show again is not a welcome one.
 
Well the government are at it again giving out 400m to boost the housing market...... Great more houses for benefit seekers.

I wasn't allowed a council house because I was single, no children, working full time n not a dip stick...... I had to private rent otherwise I may have been homeless at the time. Great eh!
 
Von Smallhausen said:
And the defecit during boom years and the 40 billion overspend in the MoD etc etc.

Tory boy I hear some say ? No. I live and work in the north east and no Tory government has given a rats about the area and find me a reason to vote for them but the alternative of Labour running the show again is not a welcome one.
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Where in the north east are you from mate?.....


The thing is right, surely it's going to get worse because the population is growing at an alarming rate.....

I can feel something bad is about to happen shortly this has to be the beginning and there's no way out of it now I don't think.
 
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mrbell1984 said:
I wasn't allowed a council house because I was single, no children, working full time n not a dip stick...... I had to private rent otherwise I may have been homeless at the time. Great eh!
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Could you afford to rent privately? If so then why did you need social housing?
 
mrbell1984 said:
Well the north east can't really complain there's a lot of funding been thrown at our way recently.
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The North East can't really complain? I dunno like, successive Government's haven't given a *****. Labour don't care for their English Heartlands anymore and the Tories generally don't care about places they don't garner support. The N/E is no mans land in politics after the shift to New Labour and City dominated politics.
 
But the workforce relies heavily on the public sector and will suffer more than most areas and it is already the worst unemployment spot. in the country.

Bh sums it up right on.
 
Biohazard said:
The North East can't really complain? I dunno like, successive Government's haven't given a *****. Labour don't care for their English Heartlands anymore and the Tories generally don't care about places they don't garner support. The N/E is no mans land in politics after the shift to New Labour.
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Theres been funding for housing a lot I know that but that's only for benefit claimers. There's also been education funding too.

Politics ruins everything not solves it, reminds me of managers who can't manage.
 
mrbell1984 said:
Theres been funding for housing a lot I know that but that's only for benefit claimers. There's also been education funding too.
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Labour built a handful of houses and little more. If that's the case, where did the funding go? It wasn't real investment.

mrbell1984 said:
Politics ruins everything not solves it, reminds me of managers who can't manage.
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Bad politics ruins, selfish politics ruins.
 
Why all the tears anyway. As far as i'm aware, public sector pensions are vastly superior to their private sector alternatives?

Anyone care to give me some examples of how the public sector workers are getting screwed?
 
Biohazard said:
No, they can legally remove their labour. Governments renegading on contracts isn't much better.
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Perhaps, but Qantas managed to get an Australian court to ban the Qantas workers strike not too long ago and thus I wouldn't be surprised if this government managed to do something similar in the future.


From Huffington Post... (my emphasis)

The Australian government, angered by a lack of warning of the grounding, had called an emergency court hearing on Saturday night to end the work bans for the sake of the national economy.
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Lord-Jaffa said:
Why all the tears anyway. As far as i'm aware, public sector pensions are vastly superior to their private sector alternatives?

Anyone care to give me some examples of how the public sector workers are getting screwed?
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What do you mean? They're being instructed to pay more into their pensions, get less back and work for longer. The average public sector pension is worth £5000 a year btw, hardly a king's ransom.
 
mrbell1984 said:
I don't think it was investment, a lot of it/most was to pay for people who don't work. Some of it did go to local councils but every penny I recon was wasted.
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Maybe it's not the people who were in general accredited for their hard work but poor investment and both micro/macro economic control from successive Governments?

The areas that have had high unemployment have done so since their employers toppled.

The undeserving poor is far easier to cry however, I do realise...
 
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Lord-Jaffa said:
Why all the tears anyway. As far as i'm aware, public sector pensions are vastly superior to their private sector alternatives?

Anyone care to give me some examples of how the public sector workers are getting screwed?
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Terms and conditions, pensions, lay offs and at times difficult working environments under constant attack from various angles. It's a sad indictment of the UK's decline when it is acceptable for political groups to undermine such an important constitutional pillar.

As for the pensions, I can accept the argument for some reform but I'm not convinced these are correct nor can they explain them properly or have presented anything to most of their workers as I understand it. It seems to have broken down somewhat, and it's not a good environment for what could be poor reform.
 
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