3060Ti

[Justnotsleeping]

Perhaps more about time on forums... I've been a member for years, and enjoy being here, but just don't post enough to hit the Members Market privileges... what is it, 1000 posts now?

I'm almost half way, just another 11 years then!

I think its a slippery slope having a system where you get special purchasing if you have posted lots of messages. Ultimately the person who has never posted a single message is just as entitled to try and purchase a card as much as the one who has posted thousands of messages. The situation will eventually improve, but I get that we want our new kit...im as keen as the next person for my 5800x to be delivered but ultimately cant do much about it unless you want to spend your life trawling sites in the hope of getting lucky.

 

[K1LaW8tt5]

Like to see you try that its nigh on impossible.

I have no upgrade planned until at least the middle of next year. And even then I probably still won't bother.(my sig is wrong I actually have 7700k+vega64)
I certainly wouldn't be trying to buy a low end card to keep me going until the one I want comes in stock.
what is going on is madness pure and simple. The demand has self replicated across all tiers.

Unless the mining scene is in full force I fully expect an influx of all these GPUs for sale 2nd hand next year when demand settles out as people who didn't actually want one will end up with one.

 

[oriondriver]

Kudos to @Gibbo for keeping us all up to speed here.

It's not an ideal solution but how about if you want a card you wait in line on an online chat - OC work there way through the list of people on chat. Cuts all the bots dead in the water.

"Hi, This is XYZ OC Employee, which card are you interested in?"

"I'd like a Gigabyte 3060Ti No-Stock Edition please"

"Sure that's £400"

"Whats your email address?"

OC Send out instructions to order and pay by email.

Card gets shipped as usual. I'd even pay a £1 service charge to do that and wait in a line. The £1 would allow OC to get someone in to staff a chat bot.

 

[varkanoid]

@varkanoid is your order status still in Pending Payment Authorization?
I managed to grab an MSI Gaming X Trio but still awaiting payment authorization for some reason

Yeah still showing although gone from my bank account. I was in a chat with them other day about another order and lady told me it can take 2-3 hours just to get payment authorisation from 3rd party system. Its that busy.

 

[omarlilyo]

Kudos to @Gibbo for keeping us all up to speed here.

It's not an ideal solution but how about if you want a card you wait in line on an online chat - OC work there way through the list of people on chat. Cuts all the bots dead in the water.

"Hi, This is XYZ OC Employee, which card are you interested in?"

"I'd like a Gigabyte 3060Ti No-Stock Edition please"

"Sure that's £400"

"Whats your email address?"

OC Send out instructions to order and pay by email.

Card gets shipped as usual. I'd even pay a £1 service charge to do that and wait in a line. The £1 would allow OC to get someone in to staff a chat bot.

Its a great idea but a lot of effort for no gain their side. YOu dont know if systems would hold up. I think theyd need to charge a £10 surcharge, which to be honest, most would be happy to pay.

 

[oriondriver]

Its a great idea but a lot of effort for no gain their side. YOu dont know if systems would hold up. I think theyd need to charge a £10 surcharge, which to be honest, most would be happy to pay.

Yeah for an expensive item I'd also go to a £10.

 

[Tinek]

Ultimately why would the retailer bother to stop the "scalpers"....

They are getting the money either way - scalpers, end user, reseller etc - Doesn't matter.

Why would they spend a load of money on their website to deal with that. They don't care who gets to buy it, so long as it's sold.

Same for everything else that's high demand. I know someone who's bought and sold 40 PS5's so far - got pre-orders on them all. He's made nearly £9k (around £200/£250 per console) profit so far. None of the big retailers selling them care he got 40 consoles - they got their money so what does it matter.

You're wrong, retailers like OcUK and similar actually DO care. Why? Good customers are returning customers. Selling 1 card or even 100 for such big place is small income, but happy returning customers bring much better income in the future. What's more, if it's a genuine customer, he/she might buy in addition new power supply, case, CPU, mobo - or whatever else. Scalper/bot will never return and will not buy anything else either. Hence, once again - shops DO care a lot who the buyer is and will almost always do what they can for it to be a genuine (and happy!) customer.

 

[SaBBz]

Mine too appeared at 15:36. Order placed 14:03 shows how slow it is to process them must be another nightmare day for etailers.

Got my order confirmation at 15:21 and payment confirmation at 17:16, so it’s all going along fairly slowly I think. Hopefully have the card before the weekend!

 

[varkanoid]

@Miguel Silva just changed to awaiting picking so might arrive tomorrow.

 

[Tinek]

You had better tell EBAY then as adverts were running stating cards were bought from you ( and others) instead of making threats.

You should look closely on these ebay auctions - a lot are pure and simple scam. I've reported countless already, where photos are being stolen, people ask for bank wire instead of paypal, company that sells cards is aircon company and suddenly they have 100x 3080s but only bank transfer and not PP, etc. etc. Really, even if one would want to go there and pay scalper, there's just so much more scam there than scalping now...

 

[Kevin Parsons]

I found the launch today quite good in comparison to previous. Thought I'd chance my luck about 13:55 and bagged a FE at 14:03 with no chaos. Got a 3070 FE on launch too for my old man, but Im still hankering for a 3080 in my main 1440p 240hz rig and those damn things are fairy dust at 649. MSRP or gtfo for me! Tried and failed on the amd launch, funnily enough having booked the day off for it. The other problem is that the 3080 brings with it is the need for a new psu so it is tempting to sit out a generation on the 3060ti... As long as it brings me 240fps Csgo and a reasonable fs2020 frame rate might just do it

 

[Stu999]

I think its a slippery slope having a system where you get special purchasing if you have posted lots of messages. Ultimately the person who has never posted a single message is just as entitled to try and purchase a card as much as the one who has posted thousands of messages. The situation will eventually improve, but I get that we want our new kit...im as keen as the next person for my 5800x to be delivered but ultimately cant do much about it unless you want to spend your life trawling sites in the hope of getting lucky.

Raffle is the fairest way.

Scalper/bot will never return and will not buy anything else either. Hence, once again - shops DO care a lot who the buyer is and will almost always do what they can for it to be a genuine (and happy!) customer.

Now that it's been proven to work in this market (not just trainers) they will be back for whatever the hot new launch is.

 

[Tinek]

There have those for PS5's as well clearly stating *photo* and people still put bids of hundreds on them... not sure if they're trolling the auction, didn't read or are just plain desperate or, are are well, you know, not too smart.

Yes, and eBay said a few times publicly that selling photos instead of highly-sought after products is against their ToS (and a scam pretty much), hence if reported they'll be taking down these auctions ASAP. Lets see, I reported a bunch already.

 

[ghuk]

You're wrong, retailers like OcUK and similar actually DO care. Why? Good customers are returning customers. Selling 1 card or even 100 for such big place is small income, but happy returning customers bring much better income in the future. What's more, if it's a genuine customer, he/she might buy in addition new power supply, case, CPU, mobo - or whatever else. Scalper/bot will never return and will not buy anything else either. Hence, once again - shops DO care a lot who the buyer is and will almost always do what they can for it to be a genuine (and happy!) customer.

I agree with a lot of what you said. I've been purchasing from OCUK now since 2012 via both my personal and business account.

Right now I'm actively looking to upgrade my Palit GTX980 Super Jet Stream that I purchased from OCUK back in Oct 2015, so far this year I haven't had much luck in securing an Ampere card. However I'm also looking at a new PC case, particularly a Corsair 450D, ideally would prefer to purchase from the same company.

From my own experience running a business for 15 years my customers are loyal to me because of the service that I provide them with, not because I can offer a certain product at the cheapest price......

 

[Tinek]

I agree with a lot of what you said. I've been purchasing from OCUK now since 2012 via both my personal and business account.

Right now I'm actively looking to upgrade my Palit GTX980 Super Jet Stream that I purchased from OCUK back in Oct 2015, so far this year I haven't had much luck in securing an Ampere card. However I'm also looking at a new PC case, particularly a Corsair 450D, would look to purchase from the same place.

From my own experience running a business for 15 years my customers are loyal to me because of the service that I provide them with, not because I can offer a certain product at the cheapest price......

The last thing you said - also very true. There's loyal customers to all kinds of stores, even very expensive ones (relatively to their competition). Each found a niche of some kind. Be it a special service for customers, or whatever else really. Yes, OcUK on average comes up more expensive than many (not all!) other but in the end I tend to end up with them for some reason. Either they have product I want, or delivery is faster than elsewhere or customer support is more helpful, or whatever else at any given time, really. And, there's also brand recognition - it's simply the store I know the most, so it comes to mind first.

 

[Gibbo]

did OCUK sold any 3060ti's today ??

Nope and we won't be doing so.

You had better tell EBAY then as adverts were running stating cards were bought from you ( and others) instead of making threats.

I am just pointing out that OcUK has not made the 3060Ti available yet, as such it is impossible for such to be happening, I can see from checking all the products, none have been sold and none have shipped.
So when I see such post I know they are absolute BS.

What about just making the announcement that they're going live inside the members market an hour before to give those with access a heads up?

Do you mean a forum post within members market, I do not moderate the MM and as such have no understanding of how it works, but I am gathering from what you are saying only members with 1000+ post count can view the post within that section?

If the latter is true, then it seems fair, of course I await the huge backlash from the members here who do not have 1000+ post and are lurkers but have spent just as much money with OcUK which would make doing this very unfair to them.
So you see there is no real win situation here.

Let me review the stock tomorrow, though technically I am away these next few days as moving house, but I shall try to log on to make some cards available and if there is enough, I shall drop a post in MM giving those who post a lot an opportunity and then I shall drop a post later or the following day in this forum giving members who do not post so often the opportunity as well, because it has to be played as fair as possible.

I am signing off for today now, will post sometime tomorrow afternoon no doubt.

I will maybe also be able to make some 6800 MBA available also tomorrow sometime too for those who want some red team.

 

[mrbios]

Thanks @Gibbo Hope the house move goes smoothly, nothing like picking the most stressful time of year to do it

EDIT: and yea members market only visible to those that fulfill the criteria, can't remember what that criteria is at now? might be 250 posts and/or 3 months forum membership or could be 1000 posts.

 

[varkanoid]

I am signing off for today now, will post sometime tomorrow afternoon no doubt.

Good luck with the house move.

 

[Cadder]

It appears the 3060Ti order was confirmed. Once it has been picked and sent out, I'll be returning the 3070 I paid £640 for...

 

[ghuk]

The last thing you said - also very true. There's loyal customers to all kinds of stores, even very expensive ones (relatively to their competition). Each found a niche of some kind. Be it a special service for customers, or whatever else really. Yes, OcUK on average comes up more expensive than many (not all!) other but in the end I tend to end up with them for some reason. Either they have product I want, or delivery is faster than elsewhere or customer support is more helpful, or whatever else at any given time, really. And, there's also brand recognition - it's simply the store I know the most, so it comes to mind first.

One of the first items I purchased from OCUK was an overclocked Core i5 2500, Gigabyte motherboard + DDR3 ram package. It worked brilliantly for the first 15 months, then one day it simply refused to boot. After tearing my hair out for a couple of evenings I phoned and spoke to one of the OCUK tech bods who calmly guided me through all of the bios settings and helped me to get it working. To this day I still have it at home.

I've never forgotten that chap's help and its one of the reasons I will look to purchase a new build PC from OCUK in the not too distant future