3090 Reported To Be A Laughable 10% Faster Than 3080

3t3P · 21 Sep 2020 at 15:22

But think of the peen people

Lithium · 21 Sep 2020 at 16:00

deuse said:
No.
It's 100% retailers.

Nothing is black and white, the whole mix up goes beyond just the retailers and also Nvidias handling of the matter. You also have no idea what pricing changes the AIB manufacturers are communicating to the retailers and what level of margin that leaves them.

deuse · 21 Sep 2020 at 16:20

Lithium said:
Nothing is black and white, the whole mix up goes beyond just the retailers and also Nvidias handling of the matter. You also have no idea what pricing changes the AIB manufacturers are communicating to the retailers and what level of margin that leaves them.

I disagree.

When OCUK stated upping the price of a Intel cpu(9700K).
I went some where else and saved £60, and spent that at the same place.

kingy10 · 21 Sep 2020 at 16:32

SniperSmithy said:
There's a reason Nvidia refer to the 3080 as the flagship card. The 3090 is not really a gaming card and the 24GB of vram should indicate this. Unless you are doing big 3d renders and such you just don't need this card.

It's a truck, yes it's a lot more powerful than your car, but it's not really built for the average user.

Nvidia is literally marketing it as a gaming card...8k 60fps along with telling us how great it is for gaming...

TNA · 21 Sep 2020 at 16:35

deuse said:
No.
It's 100% retailers.

They can keep the price NV set out and still make money.
But no, Some put the price as much as £100 a day.

While some stay at the price and gain customers.

Well they figure if people are happy to pay more than double for a mare 10-15% extra performance without bating an eyelid, why not an extra £100 or more?

Gerard · 21 Sep 2020 at 16:38

kingy10 said:
Nvidia is literally marketing it as a gaming card...8k 60fps along with telling us how great it is for gaming...

Exactly, people keep throwing this "not really a gaming card" thing up, if it wasn't a gaming card it wouldn't have "GeForce" branding. Geforce is their gaming gpu line so it's a gaming card, end of.

Lithium · 21 Sep 2020 at 16:46

deuse said:
I disagree.

When OCUK stated upping the price of a Intel cpu(9700K).
I went some where else and saved £60, and spent that at the same place.

You're not making much of a point here.

Retailers all have their own different cost bases to pay for and they don't all get the same pricing, it entirely depends on the relationship and volume they are selling.
Retailers also frequently tweak their pricing on certain products in order to entice people into the shop with a hope that they spend more money. Case in point, you saved £60 on a CPU and then spent it at the same shop.

And obviously a retailer wants to charge as much money because businesses are motivated by profit.

AutoPilot · 21 Sep 2020 at 16:47

I was thinking about getting Strix, but seeing how prices are going up, I'll look elsewhere or order one close to MSRP. Also, not sure if any of the e-retailers have done any additional measure to stop same situation happening as last Thursday where all websites started to crash. I have spoken to one retailer and they said to call on Thursday morning so they can let me know the stock they have. She also confirmed they can take orders over the phone. Might try to order one over the phone this time.

zoffster1 · 21 Sep 2020 at 17:08

Yet the price of these cards is already rising...

deuse · 21 Sep 2020 at 17:15

Lithium said:
You're not making much of a point here.

Retailers all have their own different cost bases to pay for and they don't all get the same pricing, it entirely depends on the relationship and volume they are selling.
Retailers also frequently tweak their pricing on certain products in order to entice people into the shop with a hope that they spend more money. Case in point, you saved £60 on a CPU and then spent it at the same shop.

And obviously a retailer wants to charge as much money because businesses are motivated by profit.

Point being is that some stores put the prices up and some don't

They always put the price up here when there is no need to other than greed.

deuse · 21 Sep 2020 at 17:16

TNA said:
Well they figure if people are happy to pay more than double for a mare 10-15% extra performance without bating an eyelid, why not an extra £100 or more?

Greebo · 21 Sep 2020 at 17:16

zoffster1 said:
Yet the price of these cards is already rising...

and they will keep rising as Gibbo secures orders and confirms prices of his expected stock. You think if his distributor who has the only stock in europe of a card wants £100 extra that ocuk wont pay it and put that on their price and still not sell out?

Greebo · 21 Sep 2020 at 17:19

deuse said:
Point being is that some stores put the prices up and some don't

They always put the price up here when there is no need to other than greed.

Or you dont put your price up like Currys or ****** and you have to wait until the end of November for any stock at MSRP?

Clearly they wont pay more than standard price for any of the limnited stock around,. Some other retailers like ocuk will pay more for the stock which is why they get the cards.

I know I would rather buy every available card in stock from distributors at inflated prices if i had 30,000 customers all desperate to buy one and not wait until end of November................

Lithium · 21 Sep 2020 at 17:27

deuse said:
Point being is that some stores put the prices up and some don't
They always put the price up here when there is no need to other than greed.

A business can't be greedy because there is no such thing as excess profit. The entire point of a business is to make as much profit as possible. Welcome to the world.
If you don't like a particular price then simply shop elsewhere because that's how the market functions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discovery

robin66 · 21 Sep 2020 at 17:35

Gerard said:
Exactly, people keep throwing this "not really a gaming card" thing up, if it wasn't a gaming card it wouldn't have "GeForce" branding. Geforce is their gaming GPU line so it's a gaming card, end of.

Well said.

SniperSmithy · 21 Sep 2020 at 17:36

kingy10 said:
Nvidia is literally marketing it as a gaming card...8k 60fps along with telling us how great it is for gaming...

Feel free to throw your money down the drain, but don't be surprised if these leaks are 100% accurate. You're paying for the vram which is well beyond what any game is going to use.

deuse · 21 Sep 2020 at 17:56

Lithium said:
A business can't be greedy because there is no such thing as excess profit. The entire point of a business is to make as much profit as possible. Welcome to the world.
If you don't like a particular price then simply shop elsewhere because that's how the market functions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discovery

I already said that!

But prices don't normally go up by £100 from clicking buy to you going to pay.

deuse · 21 Sep 2020 at 17:57

SniperSmithy said:
Feel free to throw your money down the drain, but don't be surprised if these leaks are 100% accurate. You're paying for the vram which is well beyond what any game is going to use.

Who cares.

My little treat for the month

TNA · 21 Sep 2020 at 19:25

deuse said:
Who cares.

My little treat for the month

Make sure to order from OcUK for an extra £100 over msrp and treat them too

Gerard said:
Exactly, people keep throwing this "not really a gaming card" thing up, if it wasn't a gaming card it wouldn't have "GeForce" branding. Geforce is their gaming gpu line so it's a gaming card, end of.

Yeah and makes me laugh. Oh and apparently the 3080 is the "flagship"

diamount · 21 Sep 2020 at 19:30

What you guys need to remember, if the 3090 was siginficantly better then why release the 3080 BEFORE it and say that is the flagship? Complete opposite to the 2080 ti vs 2080.