30xx Series Founders Edition

gpuerrilla · 23 Nov 2020 at 17:17

At this stage I wasnt complaining. As it was suggested by the wife there will be no resistance or awkward moments.

Also wont have a lack of VRAM problem for some time hopefully

Demitri128 · 23 Nov 2020 at 17:37

Blackjack Davy said:
Nothing since last wednesday and the next drop will be this wednesday in all likelyhood nvidia won't want to miss the chance to carpet bomb AMDs 6800 AIB ~~preorder~~ launch...

Good point well made.

Shaolin Chicken · 23 Nov 2020 at 17:43

No 3080 FE drop today, the wait goes on...

freddie64 · 23 Nov 2020 at 18:49

Wonder if i can use my "Key Worker" status to get one of these rare beasts?

Sick of missing out due to work.

gpuerrilla · 23 Nov 2020 at 20:59

Shaolin Chicken said:
No 3080 FE drop today, the wait goes on...

I have confidence you will snag one lad!

Shaolin Chicken · 23 Nov 2020 at 21:55

Th0nt said:
I have confidence you will snag one lad!

Thanks Th0nt, fingers crossed. Discord at the ready!

BS Dave · 24 Nov 2020 at 07:50

Shaz12 said:
I think they are phasing out the 3080 as it is being shifted to GA103 from GA102 while 3080 Ti will be getting GA102. That’s why there are no drops for the 3080.

has this been in ‘the press’ somewhere, I’ve read it in another thread too?

Dirk Diggler · 24 Nov 2020 at 07:55

BS Dave said:
has this been in ‘the press’ somewhere, I’ve read it in another thread too?

I'd like to know this, too. I see lots of posts stating that a 3080ti is imminent and that the 3080 is EOL 2 months after release. It makes no sense to me, therefore I'd be interested in any actual news from Nvidia on the subject.

b0rn2sk8 · 24 Nov 2020 at 08:09

can anyone actually explain why would it make the 3080 EOL? It makes zero sense.

Surely a 3080ti is being slotted in to fill the £1k price the 6900xt currently occupies.

What makes sense is that 3090 is being prioritised because they can sell it for a higher price and it uses the same die as a 3080. They are actually still selling lots of 3080, they just sell out in seconds...

gpuerrilla · 24 Nov 2020 at 08:15

It didnt make the 2080 EOL and it wont make the 3080 EOL. We did say this was happening a week after pre-release..

Dirk Diggler · 24 Nov 2020 at 08:23

Th0nt said:
It didnt make the 2080 EOL and it wont make the 3080 EOL. We did say this was happening a week after pre-release..

The difference with this generation is that there is very little room between the 3080 and 3090 in order to slot another card in there. There's what 15% between them? Why would anyone pay £1,000 for a 3080ti when the 3080 is £350 cheaper for a 5-10% drop in performance?

Traditionally, the 3080ti (if it even exists, and I'm not convinced) would match the 3090 and render it obsolete. But that usually happens a minimum of 6 months after initial release not 6 weeks.

When you see how close the 3080 and 3090 are it indicates to me that the top tier has been squeezed to it's limits and it's the mid range that had still to show it's hand i.e. 3050, 3060 etc..

b0rn2sk8 · 24 Nov 2020 at 08:26

To be honest I can’t even see what they could release given how close the two are in terms of performance and chip layout.

They could do an 11gb card that sits between the two or a 12gb 3090. Either way both would be terrible value compared to a 3080 which no one should buy.

gpuerrilla · 24 Nov 2020 at 09:02

Dirk Diggler said:
The difference with this generation is that there is very little room between the 3080 and 3090 in order to slot another card in there. There's what 15% between them? Why would anyone pay £1,000 for a 3080ti when the 3080 is £350 cheaper for a 5-10% drop in performance?

Traditionally, the 3080ti (if it even exists, and I'm not convinced) would match the 3090 and render it obsolete. But that usually happens a minimum of 6 months after initial release not 6 weeks.

When you see how close the 3080 and 3090 are it indicates to me that the top tier has been squeezed to it's limits and it's the mid range that had still to show it's hand i.e. 3050, 3060 etc..

I think it will be to offer a flavour that has more vram and marketed as nvidia do that its a 'super' version of the card i.e. 3080Ti.. it will still find a place, people might be being optimistic of the price being below £1000 especially for AIB custom designs.

Shaz12 · 24 Nov 2020 at 09:06

BS Dave said:
has this been in ‘the press’ somewhere, I’ve read it in another thread too?

This was leaked by Kopite who is a reliable leaker.

Dirk Diggler · 24 Nov 2020 at 09:13

Th0nt said:
I think it will be to offer a flavour that has more vram and marketed as nvidia do that its a 'super' version of the card i.e. 3080Ti.. it will still find a place, people might be being optimistic of the price being below £1000 especially for AIB custom designs.

To be honest, I'd be more likely to upgrade for a 5% performance increase than I would throw £350 at a Vram increase that will make absolute zero difference to performance.

Shaz12 · 24 Nov 2020 at 09:32

Dirk Diggler said:
The difference with this generation is that there is very little room between the 3080 and 3090 in order to slot another card in there. There's what 15% between them? Why would anyone pay £1,000 for a 3080ti when the 3080 is £350 cheaper for a 5-10% drop in performance?

Traditionally, the 3080ti (if it even exists, and I'm not convinced) would match the 3090 and render it obsolete. But that usually happens a minimum of 6 months after initial release not 6 weeks.

When you see how close the 3080 and 3090 are it indicates to me that the top tier has been squeezed to it's limits and it's the mid range that had still to show it's hand i.e. 3050, 3060 etc..

If they do not release 3080 Ti, how will NVIDIA compete with 6900XT?

sedy25 · 24 Nov 2020 at 09:33

Shaz12 said:
If they do not release 3080 Ti, how will NVIDIA compete with 6900XT?

3090 already wipes the floor with AMD's cards in a lot of rendering applications, as that's what the card is for.... Let me know when AMD has OptiX.

People seem to confuse Ampere with a gaming architecture, it's a workstation architecture primarily, it just happens to be good for gaming too.

gpuerrilla · 24 Nov 2020 at 09:36

Dirk Diggler said:
To be honest, I'd be more likely to upgrade for a 5% performance increase than I would throw £350 at a Vram increase that will make absolute zero difference to performance.

You shouldn't be thinking of upgrading at all - you have a 3080... :rolleyes:

The Ti version will be to entice those that did not buy a 3080, or the die-hards that just have to have the better version who will sell on their current card to have them 'zero difference in performance' benefits!

BS Dave · 24 Nov 2020 at 09:38

Shaz12 said:
This was leaked by Kopite who is a reliable leaker.

So if the 3080 moves die, it'll be a downgrade right? basically a 3070 super with less grunt and ram or a they doing a 16gb version?

kevman · 24 Nov 2020 at 09:55

BS Dave said:
So if the 3080 moves die, it'll be a downgrade right? basically a 3070 super with less grunt and ram or a they doing a 16gb version?

If Nvidia move the 3080 down a die they will be in even more of a mess than they currently are - most of the consumer base wont know what is going. Plus they have not even fulfilled day one orders yet - so what you will get a GA103 for pre-order?. I cant see this happening.

I think they are just struggling with the number of orders on the 3080 and the UK is just down in the pecking order for cards. I do believe they will slot in a 3080ti though. Nvidia must have known AMD would go for higher ram its what they always do.