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30xx Series Founders Edition

A few programs especially stuff like motherboard or other peripheral support applications can seem to prevent a GPU going into idle properly either always or intermittently including stuff like Samsung Magician (I think newer versions don't have this issue but not 100% sure), Creative SB Connect, etc. depending on features in use and so on.
Yeah I try to keep what I have running in the background to a minimum. MSI Afterburner (and RTSS), AIDA64 for Sensor Panel, Argus and nVidia are it.
 
Yup. I highly overpaid for my 3080 founders card, paying £1000

I remember reading peoples comments that in a few months it would be worth a lot less, with the 3080 Ti coming to market. My 3080 had a quite a lot of use and could easily get £1500 for it now. Even CEX are offering £1,317.00!

Thats gone up to £1,445 now!
 
Looks like you've even got a custom curve? Undervolt?

Yeah I'm at 1890mhz @ 850mv. I was at 1920mhz @ 850mv but since I got my 144mhz monitor dialled it back a bit as now its locked at 143fps
it was starting to get a bit toasty again for my liking. (Previously was at 75mhz / 74fps lock)

I'm wondering if it's because I'm on the latest stable release of AB? (4.6.3) I notice Beta 5 adds better 3000 series card support. Will download that and try.

Didnt notice that, yes that is definitely the issue you need to be on Beta 5.
 
No profit being made here - just trying to do someone a favour that is constantly unlucky at getting one.

I actually managed to get my Gigabyte card for £1440 on release in September so have been fortunate
Because otherwise it might have gone to a scalper. Plus if its DOA or has an issue i dont mind returning it, all they need to know is that i am returning it, if its someone that is miles away from me then they can just send it back to the seller of FE's in the UK and either get a new card or there money back. Long winded and requires trust but i like doing things for people. Thought this might be a nice way.

If people are really against it then i can just return it myself
How can you be sure a scalper won't just buy it from you to flip if you intend to sell at cost?
 
Its crazy how nVidia can ship a 3090FE for £1400 and make money on them yet the price has to nearly double for any other party to sell them yet from what I've gathered retailers/shippers/suppliers etc have to up the cost as apparently the money they make is very little. :rolleyes:

I made a dumb joke/post a while ago that the prices of 3rd party cards will get so high it will proberly be cheeper to get a return flight and pick up a FE 3090 direct from the factory then pay 3rd party prices.

In a HUB video in march, even they worked out someone is telling porkies.

Retailers saying no margin.
Distributors saying no margin.
AIBs saying no margin.

Its unlikely Nvidia are wholesaling chips at double the consumer MSRP, so someone in the above 3 is telling porkies, AIBs and distributors have control of stock before it hits retailers, so its logical to conclude its those 2 who likely have the most profit in all this. Which is the same conclusion HUB came to. In fact HUB have access to the AIB MSRP price list, which pretty much confirms its the AIBs raking it in.
 
How can you be sure a scalper won't just buy it from you to flip if you intend to sell at cost?

True - i guess trust has to do something with it and i can see loosely how someone is from there previous posts for a little vetting purpose.

Confirmation email has come through that its been despatched and should be here tomorrow :)
 
Yeah its crazy isn't it. Honestly, I'm really feeling tempted to sell at that price - but managing to resist for now
What would you use instead, an older GPU or not game at all? I really how i can set at max fps on my 3080 and the main game i play (warzone / modern warfare) never drops below it.
Even my 2080 Ti would drop frames in action
 
It might be tempting to buy a PS5 digital at RRP (are they available yet???) for gaming this year, then sell a RTX 3080 FE / 3090 FE on the website discussed above. At least you will be able to play the latest games at 4K, 30 FPS, certainly playable at a fixed framerate, or 60 FPS at lower resolutions.

You could always buy a cheap video card (£30-40 seems to be lowest available) for the now (or use old PCIE graphics card), if you don't have onboard graphics.

So few people seem to have a RTX 3080 FE (the forum users on here are an exception, most are not this dedicated to buying a card) though, I remember the listings disappearing in seconds on the drops I saw.
 
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Gone by the time I clicked the link, about 5 seconds after the discord message..
Wonder if it was just a few cards that failed the checks from yesterday?
 
In a HUB video in march, even they worked out someone is telling porkies.

Retailers saying no margin.
Distributors saying no margin.
AIBs saying no margin.

Its unlikely Nvidia are wholesaling chips at double the consumer MSRP, so someone in the above 3 is telling porkies, AIBs and distributors have control of stock before it hits retailers, so its logical to conclude its those 2 who likely have the most profit in all this. Which is the same conclusion HUB came to. In fact HUB have access to the AIB MSRP price list, which pretty much confirms its the AIBs raking it in.

Why is it unlikely, if they are well aware of how low the GPU die production is? They can adapt the price to suit the stock level.

Another possibility that's been missed is TSMC could be taking a large profit on the GPU dies (they've been making >35% net profit since the end of Q1 2020), they are running at/near full capacity so, it wouldn't be hard to reach a deal with Nvidia on this.

If Nvidia can take nearly all the profit themselves, not sure why they wouldn't. They can justify it by saying that they will use it to develop next generation GPUs etc.
 
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Why is it unlikely, if they are well aware of how low the GPU die production is? They can adapt the price to suit the stock level.

Another possibility that's been missed is TSMC (we know are quite a profitable company) is talking a large profit on the GPU dies, they are running at/near full capacity so, it wouldn't be hard to reach a deal with Nvidia on this.

If Nvidia can take nearly all the profit themselves, not sure why they wouldn't. They can justify it by saying that they will use it to develop next generation GPUs etc.

Ampere is produced at Samsung and one of the reasons they were chosen was the difference in wafer cost vs TSMC. Though they might increase the price in the longer run the way this is normally agreed they can't just jack up prices mid-production like a retailer does.

Almost certainly the AIBs are messing about here - amongst other things the way certain models have or haven't come into stock vs previous generations IMO to manipulate prices tells a tale.
 
Oops, forgot that, disregard what I said about TSMC :rolleyes: (although still applies to AMD GPUs)

Certainly wouldn't put it past Samsung to increase prices over time though, would be very costly for Nvidia to switch to die production to from Samsung 8nm to TSMC 7nm (doubtful they even have any spare production capacity).

Another possibility is that the deal they struck with Samsung was never that cheap vs TSMC, but they had more production capacity available than TSMC, which made them a more attractive option. Not sure there is a large demand for 8nm, so I think this makes sense.

You have a point about some (often cheaper) models not coming into stock, I remember trying to get a basic Asus RTX 3070, but only the more expensive models were ever in stock in Jan/February.
 
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