Yeah that's why the 3080FE makes a far better choice than either as not only does it offer 90% of the performance cards like the 3090FE while being less then half the price but when it comes to resale value the money you lose is likely only going to be a couple of hundred quid compared to nearly a grand with the 3090.
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Just to add to my point about the used market following relative performance.
The 3080s are down to around £1200 on eBay and the 3090s can be had for £1500 which barley above MSRP now for an FE. That’s looking at actual sold listings and not those on silly buy it now prices.
I can see scalpers pulling out of 3090s now because there isn’t any money to be made after fees.
I am surprised the 3080ti is been touted as a card by some people as a better value 3090, I think its the worst out of the three.
3080 if all you care about is bang for buck on gaming performance.
3090 if you need the vram.
3080ti if you desperate and its whats available.
History has taught us that it will. Just check Titan prices, Radeon VII prices etc. Plus the fact that the 3090 FE is a non LHR card, while the 3080ti is LHR. The 3090 will undoubtably attract a higher resale value.
Either way, having top tier performance to feed my CX48 monitor is worth it, can't wait to see 4080/4090 performanace as well
That's questionable TBH. For just a little more money, your getting a much better cooler, full hashrate and double the VRAM.
The 3080ti is the worst value 30xx card no matter how you look at it. The FE version is a disgrace with a 3080 cooler that has been proven to be rubbish on a normal 3080 and now they use it on a card that can easily pull more than 400w. Even the 3090 FE cooler is not great but much better than a 3080 or 3080Ti cooler and again the 3090 can pull 420w the FE.
I understand what you are saying but if spending that sort of money the logical buy would be 3090 not a 3080ti and really for gaming only a 3080 is all you need unless you need more than 10GB vram then buy the 3090 and not the 3080ti for its 2GB extra vram that is not here or there.
Now if the 3080ti FE had the 3090 FE cooler it maybe worth it if you know you will never need more than 12GB but I just can't see any sensible way to buy the 3080ti FE in its current setup.
How is it? Your definitions of better value for gamers is odd and your suggesting the 3090 is marginally more expensive, it just isnt.
The 3090 is 5% faster and 30% more expensive and the extra vram is useless for gamers.
That’s the definition of worse value.
Edit: to clarify I’m referring to the 3090 is worse value for gamers.
The 3090 is 5% faster and 30% more expensive and the extra vram is useless for gamers.
That’s the definition of worse value.
Edit: to clarify I’m referring to the 3090 is worse value for gamers.
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Wut? I have a 3080fe and in gaming it barely breaks ~60C, what's the issue with it on the 3080?
If you read what I said multiple times. The 3080Ti does not have a LHR variant as it does not need any product differentiation. The LHR aspect is there to differentiate models which came with full hash rate prior, but now getting gimped. I have said multiple times the 3080Ti and 3070Ti is already cut.
Here earlier post
If you go check the likes of MSI and ASUS for example, the 3080Ti and 3070Ti are listed on there but do not reference LHR because they do not need to differentiate. However you can see they have uploaded V2 or LHR versions for 3080, 3070, 3060ti etc, those models they have not got LHR SKUs listed.
Cannot see how its hard to understand that the 3080Ti and 3070Ti already have cut hash rate, while those cards that did not prior will get some additional marketing around them to ensure its clear that going forward they will be cut.
60C? Is that at 90%+ GPU load, if so what case you running it in btw?
Wow, that is a really really low temp for a 3080FE.
The target temperature as far as I could tell when I had mine was 80 degrees. So without modifying the fan curve, it kept the fans pretty quiet till it started to get closer to the target temp, then they would ramp up.
Are you running a custom fan curve? Or just have case fans right at/under the card?
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Big cube double chamber thing, don't remember the model
Yes, custom curve, overclocked etc. Big case fan directly above on exhaust
What RPM do your fans run at to keep it at 60?
And it does highlight how your statement earlier isnt quiet what most people will experience. If you run the card stock, you absolutely will not sit at 60c under load.
Which is what the person you quoted was likely referring to.
Its why the best way to compare coolers is noise normalised. It weeds out results like yours, which are achieved with fans spinning faster.
Easy to brute force a benchmark result by running fans at 100% and going "look how good this cooler is. 60c under full load." compared to cooler B. over here at 75c.
When cooler a. is running at 100% fans and cooler b. at stock fan curve 45%.
This is very evident when looking at 3Dmark results. Sometimes you see max temp 55c or other really low value. I use to wonder how people got that low with FE stock coolers.
Then I ran a crazy OC and set fans to 75% and ran one... my 'max temp' in the run was like 51c or something silly.
IF somebody looked at that result without knowing fan speed it might make them wonder why there card of same model cant hit that temp.
@Radox-0 you're not wrong in your explanation. However, I have found it better to not use the term LHR. It has been implemented in a confusing way. The average person not following the GeForce releases will get confused.
Technicalities are not worth it in the long run.
Technicalities are not worth it in the long run.
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Undervolt and custom fan curve works wonders for ref:
Undervolt and custom fan curve works wonders for ref:
Just to whom it may concern, this is what I use on my 3080FE.
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I've got it running 1:1 so 65C is 65%, I can't hear it hence why I'd rather run it cooler than quieter. The cooler is fine, if people choose to run it on low fans for low noise, the card is designed to run at 75-80C with no issues on silent fans, if they want to overclock then adjusting fans shouldn't be that much of an issue.
On a 3080tinit might be a different matter.
Tbf you could probably buy a 3080FE and water cool it for cheaper than an AIB version if temps and noise are that much of an issue.
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I've got a 3080FE in an NCASE M1 and running RDR2 with GeForce Experience recommended settings was hitting around 60c at 1080p and 70c at 1440p last time I monitored. The GPU is undervolted but not touched the fan curve.