30xx Series Founders Edition

KompuKare · 24 Jan 2022 at 17:57

g67575 said:
Prices will be determined by AMD and Intel's offerings mostly. AMD is now very competitive performance wise, they just haven't managed to produce nearly enough for it to make a massive difference.

Yes, because they're using far too many wafers for PS5 and XBox!

TNA · 24 Jan 2022 at 19:50

pagepack said:
We'll have rampant inflation for at least two years. Not something we've had for decades. This will have the largest affect on prices.

£450ish card will be £850 is it? What kind of inflation is this? Not sure what your smoking brother, but I hope Jensen ain't on that **** :cry:

pagepack · 24 Jan 2022 at 20:05

TNA said:
£450ish card will be £850 is it? What kind of inflation is this? Not sure what your smoking brother, but I hope Jensen ain't on that ****

It's £685 card, at today's price, which nvidia bitterly regrets.

So inflation across the globe, a supply crunch. What price are you expecting?

TNA · 24 Jan 2022 at 20:50

pagepack said:
It's £685 card, at today's price, which nvidia bitterly regrets.

So inflation across the globe, a supply crunch. What price are you expecting?

Tell you what, why don't we come back to this later this year and I show you how much I get a 4070 FE for and talk again then

gpuerrilla · 24 Jan 2022 at 20:59

pagepack · 24 Jan 2022 at 21:08

TNA said:
Tell you what, why don't we come back to this later this year and I show you how much I get a 4070 FE for and talk again then

Who's talking about a 4070fe?

Although I do agree the 4070, will cost what a 3080 does now. Or possibly even more.

TNA · 24 Jan 2022 at 21:28

pagepack said:
Who's talking about a 4070fe?

Although I do agree the 4070, will cost what a 3080 does now. Or possibly even more.

I honestly thought you was on about a 4070 all this time. Had to go back and check. My bad.

That said I can disagree that the 4070 FE will be £685 or whatever you are saying.

gpuerrilla · 24 Jan 2022 at 21:49

TNA · 24 Jan 2022 at 22:10

gpuerrilla said:

Jono8 · 24 Jan 2022 at 23:13

TNA said:
Exactly. Every time new gen comes out people get confused and come up with silly numbers. Short memories. The 3070 is around 2080 TI performance minus the 3gb vram and costs about a third the price...

Yep. Every damn generation. Always makes me laugh. "YoUr not gett1nG 2080TI perf for under £500, lOlS!"

The twist in the tale this time is Crypto mining . However if that becomes unprofitable for the layman/recreational miner, prices will probably be there or thereabouts where they have been before (and to be honest, even if there is still mining madness the "RRPs" will probably still be sort of sensible.

Trig · 25 Jan 2022 at 08:51

Jono8 said:
Yep. Every damn generation. Always makes me laugh. "YoUr not gett1nG 2080TI perf for under £500, lOlS!"

The twist in the tale this time is Crypto mining . However if that becomes unprofitable for the layman/recreational miner, prices will probably be there or thereabouts where they have been before (and to be honest, even if there is still mining madness the "RRPs" will probably still be sort of sensible.

THe twist isn't crypto, we've had crypto for a while now, its more chip shortages, Rona etc, but its the cool thing to blame miners, right..

TNA · 25 Jan 2022 at 09:08

Trig said:
THe twist isn't crypto, we've had crypto for a while now, its more chip shortages, Rona etc, but its the cool thing to blame miners, right..

Yeah but crypto works in cycles. Demand goes up when there is a bull market. At the moment it looks like the bear market is entering and if it is the case for the next gen launch I doubt many bedroom miners will buy them with the rising electricity prices.

Harlequin · 25 Jan 2022 at 09:21

If this is the super cycle of crypto, the bull run will start just in time for the 4000 series launch..... just as the last did for the 3000 series launch.... hmmm

Ayahuasca · 25 Jan 2022 at 09:24

Trig said:
THe twist isn't crypto, we've had crypto for a while now, its more chip shortages, Rona etc, but its the cool thing to blame miners, right..

It's not all on one thing no, but mining is absolutely playing a significant part.

pagepack · 25 Jan 2022 at 09:29

Mining doesn't effect mrsp. Which is why the fe cards offer good value. The 3080 fe would easily over £700 be the end of the year, purely down to manufacturing cost increases.

The 40xx will not be as good value.

Trig · 25 Jan 2022 at 09:59

Well given I don't always upgrade to the latest and greatest, the 3080FE will do me for a good while yet.

Jono8 · 25 Jan 2022 at 10:58

Trig said:
THe twist isn't crypto, we've had crypto for a while now, its more chip shortages, Rona etc, but its the cool thing to blame miners, right..

It definitely is mostly due to crypto mining.

Yes we've had crypto for years, but it's due to the fact that profitibilty sky rocketed, meaning you could get a ROI in a few months.

At the height of this, GPUs were basically free for goodness sake!

I guarantee you that once profitibilty for the recreational/home miners dissapears/becomes insignificant, the gpu market will get back to normal again.

Harlequin · 25 Jan 2022 at 11:02

Except it wont. It really wont. Trying watching/ reading some crypto tubers / websites and you`ll see why what you said isnt true at all.

Ayahuasca · 25 Jan 2022 at 11:05

Jono8 said:
It definitely is mostly due to crypto mining.

Yes we've had crypto for years, but it's due to the fact that profitibilty sky rocketed, meaning you could get a ROI in a few months.

At the height of this, GPUs were basically free for goodness sake!

I guarantee you that once profitibilty for the recreational/home miners dissapears/becomes insignificant, the gpu market will get back to normal again.

Nah the market is never going back to the way it was. By that, I mean the days where you could buy a halo card like the Titan for <£1000.

Jono8 · 25 Jan 2022 at 11:07

Ayahuasca said:
Nah the market is never going back to the way it was. By that, I mean the days where you could buy a halo card like the Titan for <£1000.

Well, maybe not but then prices do increase generally due to inflation anyway.

By normal, I mean cards will start selling at rrp or thereabouts again.