330 (ci) tuning?

merlin said:
So back OT - I wonder whether the GS-D3's with XL on them mean they've got stiffer sidewalls? Seems odd some people think they're perfectly ok and others don't.

Maybe the XL denotes a re-inforced sidewall?

XL = Extra Load so it would seem logical this would be the case although I don't know for sure.
 
Not sure XL actually is the sidewall. Kwik Fit seemed to think it was something for heavier cars but insisted that's not necessarily saying the sidewall is modified, which appears a little contradictory.

They say the code is RR or R for re-inforced sidewalls. However, the did say they thought GY have played around with the GD-D3's both in terms of modifying the pattern and bringing out XL versions for bigger cars. I thought the pattern was always the same but apparently it's not - it has changed slightly.

Anyway, reading bmwland I've been scared off the GS-D3's for the 330 - it's all a mishmash of opinions but too many people complaining of soft sidewalls and lunging at high speed. So best price I've got for the Pilot Sport 2's is £640 fitted for 4. 2 x 225 40 18 and 2 x 255 35 18.

OUCH.
 
I wouldn't beleive a word Kwik Fit tell you.

The muppets managed to screw up balancing my wheels properly when I had new tyres the other week. BMW Dealer picked up the inbalance but recommended I went back to them as they could see I'd only just had the tyres fitted.

Popped over and was told I had to wait 45 minutes first. Said ok, back in 45 minutes only to be told 'If you leave and come back you lose your place in the queue'.

Pathetic.
 
Depends on the Depot - I've got one local with not one but two employees sporting their very own brain cells. It's a sight to behold.
 
Specifications for some tyres:

- XL, EL, RF, extraload or reinforced have a higher load index

Hmm.

Well, I have to say - I'm struggling to see how a tyre can have a higher load index (in other words take more weight) by any way other than re-inforcing the sidewall.

Surely the XL GS-D3's must have stiffer sidewalls then?

Anyway, still not going to take the risk with them.
 
At least get ContiSport's then as I've never seen Pilot Sports do anything other than suck at every performance tyre test I've read :p

I'll type up their 'performance' later for you if you like.

Infact can you get Bridgestone Potenza S-03 in that size?
 
Hmmm..

Braking Distance from 70mph in wet (235/40/18):

1) Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 52m
2) Bridgestone Potenza S-03 57m
3) Dunlop SP Sport MAXX 58m
4) Pirelli PZero Nero 58m
5) Michelin Pilot Sport 64m

Wouldn't want those wicked tyres on my car if I needed to stop suddenly in an emergency situation in the wet. You'd pull up the length of two S Class Mercedes further into the queue of traffic you've just tried to avoid..

Wet Handling (Lap time)

1) Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 70 seconds
2) Bridgestone Potenza S-03 71 seconds
..
4) Michelin Pilot Sport 73 seconds

'The Michelen's siode trread blocks meant care was needed when coming off the throttle in the transitions, as we found out on our one and only excursion into the tyre wall. It wasn't the most sideways tyre, but it's less progressive nature resulted in some serious perspiration behind the wheel'

Top notch tyres eh..

Numerous other examples throughout this professionally done test under proper controlled conditions. I won't bore you with any more, but the results in the curved aquaplaning were particularly rubbish, it was miles behind the next worst tyre.

Basically, they suck in the wet but are ok in the dry - in some circumstances, better than Eagle F1 in the dry. But it rains here, lots. Bridgestone Potenza S-03 came second after all, close to the F1 in the wet, but better in the dry. IMHO, a better choice of tyre especially as topped the 'Dry Handling' test which was all about that 'feel' you felt was lacking from the Eagle F1 (Which, incidently, came last in that particular test, the only test in which it did so).

Final results saw the Pilot Sport flat last, and the Eagle F1 at number one BUT only becuase it was a quieter tyre than the Bridgestone. Had you ignored the results in the noise test, the Bridgestone was joint top.

Still, your choice, but these tests show the tyres tested, back to back with a proper direct comparison - this is not something any user opinion can ever give you.
 
Them GS-D3's seem to get very mixed reports from users, hence I never tried them incase I didnt get on with them.

Guys on MLR seem to think there a good all rounder but with sprited driving they wear un-even due to very soft sidewall.


PS 2's seem to get better feedback from users from what I have read on MLR.

I put R888 on the fiesta, winter coming so dont do that :p
 
[TW]Fox said:
I don't quite get this, I have GS-D3's all round and don't experience this, it's planted at any speed..

There have been odd stories on BMW land where e46 Sport people have sold a brand new set of GS-D3's after owning them for a few days complaining of dodgy handling.

I was phoning around for tyres in February, and one mechanic refused to fit GS-D3's to my car after a customer with a e46 Sport complained about handling issues. There's definately something not quite right with them and the e46 Sport wheels.

Pilot Sports are fine at 140mph+ ;)
 
NickXX said:
I was phoning around for tyres in February, and one mechanic refused to fit GS-D3's to my car after a customer with a e46 Sport complained about handling issues. There's definately something not quite right with them and the e46 Sport wheels.

Yet he'd have been only too happy to fit a set of Fulda SupaSava's had you asked for them, I bet the only problem with the GS-D3's was the fact it didnt make him enough margin.
 
[TW]Fox said:
If there is a significant difference then please let me know as I have a rock to crawl back under :p

Back you go... ;)

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Test, beats the GS-D3 : HERE

The PS2's have a different compound as well, it's a hybrid wet/dry compound system that sit next to each other. I have them on the scoob and find them hard to fault in the wet or dry.
 
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