39 Bodies found in Lorry in Essex
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So what happens if you have an accident and the trailer wasn't coupled correctly, is it the responsibility of the yard man or the driver?
Iv worked for haulage firms before iv never heard of a yard mans job to couple the trailers up.
Yes, they do.
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Isn't it just standard police procedure to arrest on suspicion of murder if a body, or bodies, are found in suspicious circumstances? Don't like how the gutter press in this country have already named him and plastered his picture all over the place though.
It's the drivers' responsibility to check he has the right paperwork for the right trailer, that that trailer (and the truck itself) is road legal and coupled correctly.
It's not particularly common tbh to have your truck coupled up for you across the industry, from a drivers perspective, its nice to get to work knowing it is, especially on cold wet mornings!
Yes you still do your walk around checks, but generally don't get quite so wet through as you would if you were coupling it up first.
i dunno. why would someone wanting to traffic live people lock them in an air-tight refrigerated lorry?
if he switched fridge on he didn't murder them its manslaughter
I worded that wrong, but yes should be manslaughter yet why reported as murder.
It's not manslaughter unless there is actual gross negligence involved, it has to be reasonably foreseeable that your actions would lead to someones death.
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This is quite a complicated one. Is it man slaughter? Sure it may have been negligence in him not doing an inspection of the trailer prior to "hooking up" ( don't know lorry words ) But what if he had inspected it and found there were already a bunch of dead people in there.
How do we figure out at what point these people entered the unit? and how do we know when, how and who was responsible for their death? Also
Surely at some level they themselves are responsible for their own deaths assuming they have sneakily gotten into the vehicle and slipped the attention of security.
How do we figure out at what point these people entered the unit? and how do we know when, how and who was responsible for their death? Also
Surely at some level they themselves are responsible for their own deaths assuming they have sneakily gotten into the vehicle and slipped the attention of security.
Yup - though I guess that is more of a defence for a one off person or a handful at best etc..
Yep I appreciate that, I was just pointing out that it is a potential exploit otherwise. It is still partly his own fault for not checking - it isn't like they're unaware of the fines either - that's part of the incentive to make them check, that it is their responsibility.
might be wrong but isn't it a bit strange that there's no company name on the truck...pretty rare to see a general haulage truck without name/phone number as it's free advertising, especially on a blinged up truck like it is
only trucks I can think of that don't have names are hire vehicles, but they're bog standard
only trucks I can think of that don't have names are hire vehicles, but they're bog standard
Not uncommon at all in transport , never understood why, if I had my own privately run truck it would have my company name all over it!
Probably a sub contractor who’s got enough contacts to get plenty of work without having to advertise himself.