£4000 spec

LOL, it's very easy to waste such amount of money to decent rig. If you can't afford it, send this valuable customer to me for breathtaking result ;-) It cannot be something "ordinary" like Microsoft keyboard, or mouse for 30 quids, lol. This computer must do shine :)
 
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The guy has asked for a £4k spec, just because the guy (the customer) has money you think he shouldn't? Not everyone is an enthuthiast, but would like a good machine, so stop getting on your high horses and saying "bah, just a waste", and try and help this guy (the OP) instead :-)
 
If he wants to spend that some of money then fine. The value of money is relative. I have been fortunate enough to be in a position to be able to splash that sum of money about on such things before - right now I haven't got a pot to **** in (Well no liquid assets anyway)!

I just think he's going about it all wrong. To say I want a £4000 PC is ridiculous. To say he needs the best PC for a particular purpose is more justifiable. Just because you have buckets of cash available it doesn't make it ok to use it blindly.
 
Scougar said:
so [...] try and help this guy (the OP)
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The advice is worth exactly how much one paid for it, I'm afraid ergo I'm in doubt if you really get real (by real R) answer here, at free forum :) This customer is special and needs special rig and special seller, completing parts of which might take couple suppliers, not only one - I can say only that. I'd afford such order satisfying customer, as always, anyway :)
 
JimboJet said:
I just think he's going about it all wrong. To say I want a £4000 PC is ridiculous. To say he needs the best PC for a particular purpose is more justifiable. Just because you have buckets of cash available it doesn't make it ok to use it blindly.
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Well said

OP should re-approach the customer with above advise.
 
Stop with the lectures already.. it's the guys money. he's earnt it and will spend it as he likes! the OP already explained it's way over the ideal spending. Just try to spec the best bang for buck (while buck ~ £4000).

It's relative, imagine each item with a 0 knocked off the end and you're budget is 400. And you're ordering in the future.........having just won the lottery..
 
I know i did make a very loose spec, but left it with caveats such as find out the tastes and area the PC will be located etc. £4000 is a lot to spend out for them not to like it.
 
Snooble said:
Stop with the lectures already.. it's the guys money. he's earnt it and will spend it as he likes! the OP already explained it's way over the ideal spending. Just try to spec the best bang for buck (while buck ~ £4000).

It's relative, imagine each item with a 0 knocked off the end and you're budget is 400. And you're ordering in the future.........having just won the lottery..
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It's not lecturing, he can spend it on marmite for all I care, some people just do not have a conception of computers and hence end up wasting good money for no reason.

My friend for example decked out his macbook pro so it was RIDICULOUS money, when all he wanted to do was look good and use spotify. He saved a fortune and is happy about it.
 
Sure, ask him if he'd be happy saving 2k but losing a little high end power and drop to a 24" screen and see what he says.

I just assumed with a budget of 4k he was serious about getting a top range system. Once you take out the 30" Dell, 5.1 speakers and SSD. You're really not left with much more than a top end rig. That's without going completely OTT on Tri-SLI/XF etc.

Warn him his money/efficency ratio drops as he spends more cash. Reccomend a 2k system. Then walk him through, part by part, the improvements he'd receive with each upgrade. Best of both worlds I guess.
 
anuraj said:
I agree wiyh what ever stulid posts.
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To me, Stulid's specs generally have something out of place in one way or another.

I.e tri480's, skimping out money on the mouse/keyboard/sound..you get the idea. Three 480's would see almost NO effect on any game that is out at the moment, and 480's will be worth their weight in gold in terms of gaming for a while. Whilst good HID's would make a rig feel much better, as would eyefinitey imo.

Just a different way of looking at things. (Though thanks for your help in my old 'spec me' threads Stulid :))
 
Scougar said:
The guy has asked for a £4k spec, just because the guy (the customer) has money you think he shouldn't? Not everyone is an enthuthiast, but would like a good machine, so stop getting on your high horses and saying "bah, just a waste", and try and help this guy (the OP) instead :-)
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100% agree.
ppls personalities play a role in wot they buy aswell.
how do you know that this guy is not thinking of learning
a lot about computers and wants the best to learn on.
theres absolutly nothing wrong with this and i understand
because ive done it before. there is logic in not wanting to
buy "does the job" because you will outgrow it, especially if
your a fast learner and pick up things quickly.

Ive been really into my music since i can remember, proper
club music (house,trance,hardstyle) and about 4/5 years ago
i decided that i wanted to learn to mix music and have fun.
i didnt go out and buy a 250 set of cheap cd decks to learn
on i spent £1500 straight out because i wanted to learn with
the best equipment and not cut corners. spending that amount of
money on sumthing i didnt even no how to work yet might seem
a waste to some ppl, but in the end i can now say that i learnt
well and would consider myself a DJ.

Personality,creativity and style influence wot you buy
its not silly or a waste. its a reflection on wot type of person
you are.

if you can afford it, enjoy yourself!" because wer we r going you cant take it with you!
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You can put normal components that rival top components in and add some gamechangers with the money you save.

the dell 27" will be newer tech and cheaper than the old 30" with high latency saving £300

the i7 950 will clock safely to 4ghz and overtake any other processor except dual xeons and just provide a bit of paper with settings to hit this if he messes it up. This saves hundreds of £s

Put a couple of 480gtxs onto the cheapest sli board with the new usb3 and sata3 connections because its not like he's capable of adding a 3rd card later.

This leaves a good budget for important items that make the ultimate difference to the experience. A Xonar Essence card with 124db s/n rating will really help if this guy has a good hifi as he can phono out to it.

Again budget to raid a couple of 160gb intel ssds or one huge revodrive and these will make the experience change 10fold.

never get less than a corsair power supply hx1000 of true1200w is perfect for this.

Why not use any money left for some 3D kit bundled with an asus 3d monitor to use just to show off?

no need for xeons its not like he went down that route with his old system he just bought what was accepted to be pretty fast at the time i had some 7950gx2s and they were fast with major problems.
 
jakesnake said:
100% agree.
ppls personalities play a role in wot they buy aswell.
how do you know that this guy is not thinking of learning
a lot about computers and wants the best to learn on.
theres absolutly nothing wrong with this and i understand
because ive done it before. there is logic in not wanting to
buy "does the job" because you will outgrow it, especially if
your a fast learner and pick up things quickly.

Ive been really into my music since i can remember, proper
club music (house,trance,hardstyle) and about 4/5 years ago
i decided that i wanted to learn to mix music and have fun.
i didnt go out and buy a 250 set of cheap cd decks to learn
on i spent £1500 straight out because i wanted to learn with
the best equipment and not cut corners. spending that amount of
money on sumthing i didnt even no how to work yet might seem
a waste to some ppl, but in the end i can now say that i learnt
well and would consider myself a DJ.

Personality,creativity and style influence wot you buy
its not silly or a waste. its a reflection on wot type of person
you are.

if you can afford it, enjoy yourself!" because wer we r going you cant take it with you!
:cool:
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Your decks may have helped out (don't know what they are), but having a PC of this magnitude requires specific programs to use them. If he does use them in a time critical environment where time really is money, then good, get the pc (though I suspect the list would be quite specific).

Otherwise please tell me how spending £2,000 more to gain imperceptable differences is in any way useful? Hell lets face it, with equipment this high tech any problems are going to be magnified.
 
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Yup.
 
Just an update.
HE came in to collect his old PC and had a quick chat about what he wanted it for. So now i know a bit better what he's after.

1-Games machine and music.
2-Single screen 24"
3-BIG flashy blingy case with loads of lights.
4-Good sound card as it will be used for music editing too.
5-Good set of speakers. (will probably recommend a hifi setup rather than PC speakers if he has space)
6-Wants dual graphics cards

So am just going to go through all your guys specsand see which fits best.
But people who have specced out flashy lighted systems have put it in the Lian Li PC-P80B. Can you get a window for that case? otherwise isn't it pointless?

Thanks again.
 
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If he's using it for serious music editing, I'd probably spend 2k on the computer, keyboard/mouse, monitor and a headset and 2k for studio gear - external soundcard, a decent pair of studio monitors, software (if he doesn't have it already) and a midi interface will easily set you back £2k.

Depends how serious he is about his music editing/music listening/gaming - a budget will need to be allocated for each; dependant on his preferences.
 
You probably want to build him a complete setup, not just the basic base unit and 1 monitor.

Forget about getting xeons or overpriced 980x I7's aswell.

You might want to add a solid state HD to this, but this is a perfectly acceptible system to do literally anything.
Eyefinity (3x monitors), speaker system, gaming keyboard and mouse, great case, dual 5870's.



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As i said, no eyefinity and no 3d.
He wants dual graphics cards. which combo should i recommend.

I've put down 2 GTX 480 in SLI for now.
What PSU would i need to run those 2? an 850W corsair enough?
 
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