Funny thing if you sell a graphics card second hand you cant sell it for higher than you bought it, but OCUK can sell it higher than they originally sold for
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4090 price going up?
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Funny thing if you sell a graphics card second hand you cant sell it for higher than you bought it, but OCUK can sell it higher than they originally sold for
I dont know why this is such a surprise to some people, the 3090 hit what 2.8-3.2k during the height of the mining boom (some people here where defending this) from some retailers as I remember making some poor take about how it would be cheeper to get a return flight and picking up an FE 3090 direct from the factory.
It's 10+ years too late to start pushing back against high pricing as on this very forum those who did where pretty much mocked and ignored.
Whats also sustaining these high prices is a screwed up/ over inflated second hand market which I'm sure most people will have no problem taking maximum advantage off that ends up sustaining high pricing.
It's 10+ years too late to start pushing back against high pricing as on this very forum those who did where pretty much mocked and ignored.
Whats also sustaining these high prices is a screwed up/ over inflated second hand market which I'm sure most people will have no problem taking maximum advantage off that ends up sustaining high pricing.
Your answer right there in red and the lockdowns caused it as people had to work and entertain themselves from home. Now there is zero reason for it and of all things in a time where people are struggling to even pay their normal bills and to actually even get a pay increase that even matches inflation, I should state the fake inflation rate as the street prices of things have doubled and tripled in many cases and nowhere near the B.S inflation rate stated officially, so someone is profiting from all this and passing the blame on to other made up reasons. I don't want to go political on this but this corrupt government we have had for all these years and other world leaders are the reasons for this as they have encouraged it and profited personally from it, while screwing the everyday person with made up B.S excuses and reasons for it.
We are where we are out of GREED and CORRUPTION by these people supposedly working for us and to keep daily life running normally without such things we are seeing happening to us over the years.. Explain a simple fact why are we paying almost 10x more for our energy bills than say Poland ? Why? we don't even buy Russian energy as they do and when we did it was in single figures percentage of what we used, but the so called war doubled and tripled our energy bills while other countries have been going down ours still goes up and fake reductions while other parts of the bill goes up..
Now back to gpus and why Nvidia and even AMD are charging silly prices this generation and playing naming games and in some cases worst cards for the new generation compared to the last, then Intel games too with 13 to 14 series cpus that are the same cpu oced for 1% increase and at the new high price for the same tech with a new printed name on it.. why they are getting away with such things right now is because of the above I stated, the examples have been set by governments and they are following, you just have to ask why has our government not stepped in to solve the energy prices and the issues with even food prices now, the basics are now not basics but becoming a luxury for a lot of people..
Sorry for the rant but this is why OCUK and other retailers think they can get away with such pricing flip flopping .. down one week a few quid then up a few 100 quid week after because a butterfly in china or somewhere in the world burped and the whole Russian/Ukraine war thing seems to only have effected us the most, the country that had the least involvement with these countries in Europe for energy as an example.. Sorry but the excuses and fake reasoning now is past its sell by date and people need to wake up they are being taken for mugs now.
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You can't pool memory or cuda cores without a bridge and even games that are meant to work without a NVLINK bridge don't work without it. Check GN when he did 2 x 3090 linked and unlinked the so called games that were meant to work without it didn't in some cases and also all work apps will refuse to pool VRAM and CUDA cores without it. Trust me I know.. I have this setup and we use it at work too... 4090 is crippled without NVLINK for most games that support mGPU natively and work apps will not see 48GB but only 24GB x 2 and the apps in some cases can only use 24GB without the bridge and half the cuda cores in some cases too or be seen as 2 seperate cards that need work sent to each individually so basically no SLI/NVLINK and any 2 cards will do the same ..
Anyways SLI/NVLINK is dead thanks to Nvidia and Game devs that have all the tools there to use them and even two or more different cards from even different gpu makers but they don't invest in it, reason why also Nvidia dropped SLI support as game devs were meant to integrate it into their games without driver support/profiles required anymore.. but as we see game devs and companies could care less about the pc market in that way.
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Soldato
Well my 4090 TUF OC that came with a good price, turned out to be a normal TUF upon receipt. Annoying.
Soldato
I said this when the very first Titan card launched. Nothing more than an exercise from Nvidia to see if the plebs would bite at such a stupid price....thanks to e-peen, they did bite and the rest is history.
Agree all that purchased Titans to just game on really took the micky back then to the point Nvidia even gimped later Titans and made them less a card for work and were nothing more than a gaming card with double the VRAM and even not the full chips enabled for cuda cores, cut down chips sold as Titans and then the Xp/XP games to add to the insult. Anyone purchased them for work well they had their reasons but for gaming was just silly back then as they didn't offer anything over the Ti models and VRAM was not an issue for games back then so no need to have double the VRAM too for gaming.
Ohh lets not forget the Star Wars themed Titans they really were aimed at people that work right ?
Pure gaming card design sold as a Titan ..
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I would most likely have agreed with you if the card have stayed a true titan class card with appropriate drivers like the old days. Those days are long gone
I would most likely have agreed with you if the card have stayed a true titan class card with appropriate drivers like the old days. Those days are long gone
Also the support for NVLINK again. These are not even 90 class cards anymore too, as all previous 90 class had sli/nvlink. Also before 3090/ti the true 90 class were dual gpu cards on one board. So 90 class keeps getting worse and more cut down too.
Really the 4090 is the true 4080 and the full chip the 4080ti.. but Nvidia.... and name games ..
Im probably one of the only few who paid less for my 4090 than i did my 3090 both were at RRP as well, not inflated prices.. though the 4090 was cheaper cos of the stronger pound at the time.
Launch day 3090 bought price: £1589
Middle of its life cycle 4090 bought price: £1519
I can count that as good timing i think?
Launch day 3090 bought price: £1589
Middle of its life cycle 4090 bought price: £1519
I can count that as good timing i think?
Over £3k spend to play the broken junk that passes for "triple A" PC gaming these days? No, I'd count that as a bad thing.
But as long as you are happy, whatever.
But as long as you are happy, whatever.
I dunno, one was during mining boom when everything sold out instantly so i count myself lucky in being able to get a gpu at the time (was running a 1060 3gb trying to power a ultrawide
)i got just over 3 years use out of it before my 4090 upgrade, if the 4080 was cheaper that definitely would have been the better option but no way for 1200.
Yeah i would agree with you that most games these days are broken on release though i did get to play CP2077 without any bugs or glitches both on the 3090 and 4090 though 4090 with the much nicer eye candy enabled
.And yes i am happy
And that was just for the GPU'sOver £3k spend to play the broken junk that passes for "triple A" PC gaming these days? No, I'd count that as a bad thing.
But as long as you are happy, whatever.
I been pricing up building a new highend system to upgrade my old 2018 computer (CPU, Motherboard, Ram, PSU, M.2, CPU AIO, ETC) lately and the prices are scary
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And that was just for the GPU's
I been pricing up building a new highend system to upgrade my old 2018 computer (CPU, Motherboard, Ram, PSU, M.2, CPU AIO, ETC) lately and the prices are scary
Its more than scary, its bonkers... Motherboards are right up there too. I remember being able to build a neat itx build for relatively cheap but it seems itx boards now are up nearer £400 especially if you want to overclock and tweak everything.
The prices will slowly destroy this market.
I agree,
I was looking at getting another Asus ROG Maximus motherboard
My Z370 Asus Maximus Formula was around £385 when i bought it and now the Z790 ones are £650 to £750
Just seen the review for the Aorus Z790 Extreme for $1300 reviewed by Debauer, another overpriced mess.
Doesn't even come with custom monoblocks preinstalled, i remember the Asrock Aqua boards coming in around that priced but included a lot MORE!
Soldato
@Jay85 Don't worry I tested it. Very very little coil whine and clocks to 3.1ghz. That's a none OC version as well. Makes me think they don't actually bin these cards lol.
Judging by what you just found, it doesn't feel like they do lol.
Yours runs higher than my FE card, i can clock mine to +220 which will run around 3060mhz and +1300 on the memory (not pushed it any higher on memory).
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The clocks don't tell the complete story, there's a certain amount of 'stretching' that goes on. Both seem decent though
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Will the 4080 price start going up too?